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Stayers Hurdle 2021

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  • Originally posted by OverTheLast View Post
    Saxon, did he say which horses are being aimed at Down Royal? Cheers
    Aba, Envoi Allen, Percy and Delta Work were the four mentioned.

    There are sure to be loads more.

    It wasn't a big update, only a small one.
    "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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    • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
      With 2 of the first 4 home in the Albert all but confirmed for the Stayers I wouldn't be at all surprised if Mullins decided to send Monkfish down that route as well. He did mention the Stayers straight after winning the Albert albeit slightly tongue in cheek. However, with Thyme Hill and now Fury Road throwing their hat's into the ring maybe Willie will be tempted to do the same as he doesn't appear to have anything else of note for the race but has a few for the RSA.
      If anything would it not do the complete opposite? Though I personally don’t think it would have that much bearing on them plotting where Monkfish goes, if it did, it’s 2 horses less now that he has to take on in the novice chase division, one of which likely throughout the Irish winter calendar. There was very little between the AB horses so at face value the form says they are all around the same ability. You’d make the most of 2 of your likely ‘rivals’ going elsewhere rather than follow them no?

      I expect Carefully Selected to go for the Stayers this season. Bacardys will likely have another crack. I think Mullins will have numbers there without diverting one of his top novice chase prospects imo

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      • Originally posted by jono View Post
        If anything would it not do the complete opposite? Though I personally don’t think it would have that much bearing on them plotting where Monkfish goes, if it did, it’s 2 horses less now that he has to take on in the novice chase division, one of which likely throughout the Irish winter calendar. There was very little between the AB horses so at face value the form says they are all around the same ability. You’d make the most of 2 of your likely ‘rivals’ going elsewhere rather than follow them no?

        I expect Carefully Selected to go for the Stayers this season. Bacardys will likely have another crack. I think Mullins will have numbers there without diverting one of his top novice chase prospects imo
        That makes sense, connections have Jon Snow & Francin too so I would have thought those two would stick to hurdling and Monkfish will try chasing.

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        • Originally posted by Hardy Eustace View Post
          That makes sense, connections have Jon Snow & Francin too so I would have thought those two would stick to hurdling and Monkfish will try chasing.
          And potentially Benie Des Dieux and Five O'Clock.

          They have a lot of options, and initially I was suspecting Monkfish as a potential for the Stayers, but RR has enough to have a crack at that race already.

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          • Cashed in my speculative bet on Malone Road for the Churdle and placed a speculative bet on Monkfish for the Stayers @ 33/1.

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            • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
              And potentially Benie Des Dieux and Five O'Clock.

              They have a lot of options, and initially I was suspecting Monkfish as a potential for the Stayers, but RR has enough to have a crack at that race already.
              Apart from Benie , who let's face it is unlikely to run in the Stayers, Mullins doesn't appear to have a leading chance in the race. Monkfish would definitely put that right. I agree he's more likely to go chasing but at 33/1 with cashout it's a no brainer to have him covered for this.

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              • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                Cashed in my speculative bet on Malone Road for the Churdle and placed a speculative bet on Monkfish for the Stayers @ 33/1.
                out of interest did you manage to get your full stake back on him.

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                • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                  Cashed in my speculative bet on Malone Road for the Churdle and placed a speculative bet on Monkfish for the Stayers @ 33/1.
                  I’d be surprised if you’re not cashing out that bet too

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                  • Originally posted by billymag View Post
                    out of interest did you manage to get your full stake back on him.
                    Not my account but yes.

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                    • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post
                      I’d be surprised if you’re not cashing out that bet too
                      Me too !!!

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                      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                        Apart from Benie , who let's face it is unlikely to run in the Stayers, Mullins doesn't appear to have a leading chance in the race. Monkfish would definitely put that right. I agree he's more likely to go chasing but at 33/1 with cashout it's a no brainer to have him covered for this.
                        Why is Benie unlikely to run in the Stayers? As the prices suggest, I'd say we have more chance BDD goes for the Stayers than Monkfish does.

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                        • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
                          Why is Benie unlikely to run in the Stayers? As the prices suggest, I'd say we have more chance BDD goes for the Stayers than Monkfish does.
                          As they've gone for 3 Mares in a row with her I'd say the chances of Benie or Monkfish going for the Stayers are about equal so for me a speculative punt at 33/1 compared to 8/1 makes sense.

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                          • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
                            Cobblers Way
                            Escaria Ten
                            Commander of Fleet
                            Run Wild Fred
                            Assemble
                            Column of Fire
                            Diol Ker

                            Just put in the other thread, just off the top of my head, these are all owned by Gigginstown and look like staying chasin types.


                            Escaria ten is a red herring


                            Has to be some value in there for the RSA now too.





                            Back to the stayers hurdle though, I'm now mob handed with:

                            Fury Road 14/1 and 28/1
                            Thyme Hill 17.5/1
                            Paisley Park 10/1 and 17/2
                            Lisnager Oscar 25/1
                            Thomas Darby 66/1

                            Stakes are in my diary and I'll talk about my own position at some point there, but just looking at Fury Road at 20/1 and 16/1 you'd struggle to back one and not the other wouldn't you? The one who finished ahead of the other is the bigger price, and even the die-hard Thyme-Hill-Was-Unlucky fan club wouldn't believe he's got LOADS in hand regardless?



                            If I was starting fresh now, I'd probably back Thyme Hill at 16/1 and Fury Road at 20/1 for the race....
                            Last edited by Kevloaf; 25 September 2020, 06:53 PM.

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                            • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post


                              Has to be some value in there for the RSA now too.





                              Back to the stayers hurdle though, I'm now mob handed with:

                              Fury Road 14/1 and 28/1
                              Thyme Hill 17.5/1
                              Paisley Park 10/1 and 17/2
                              Lisnager Oscar 25/1
                              Thomas Darby 66/1

                              Stakes are in my diary and I'll talk about my own position at some point there, but just looking at Fury Road at 20/1 and 16/1 you'd struggle to back one and not the other wouldn't you? The one who finished ahead of the other is the bigger price, and even the die-hard Thyme-Hill-Was-Unlucky fan club wouldn't believe he's got LOADS in hand regardless?



                              If I was starting fresh now, I'd probably back Thyme Hill at 16/1 and Fury Road at 20/1 for the race....

                              keV, you need to get Sire Du Berlais on side.

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                              • I've gone in on cross doubles on Sire Du Berlais and Thyme Hill with Al Boum Photo. Love that type of bet.

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