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Supreme Novices Hurdle 2021

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  • Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post

    2020 - No Runners
    2019 - Harrie 3rd, Buildmeupbuttercup 5th
    2018 - Getabird 1st, Carter McKay 3rd, Makitorix 6th/last
    2017 - Crack Mome - 2nd
    2016 - Min 1st
    2015 - Douvan - 1st
    2014 - Vautour - 1st
    2013 - Mozoltov - 1st
    So if Power Of Paise or Ganapathi won really well, would that open the door up for Appreciate It to step up to the Ballymore?

    Paddy Power don’t have either priced up for the Supreme, unless they already know neither are likely to be Supreme bound. Thus far Ganapathi more likely I think.

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    • Originally posted by Craigy14 View Post

      So if Power Of Paise or Ganapathi won really well, would that open the door up for Appreciate It to step up to the Ballymore?

      Paddy Power don’t have either priced up for the Supreme, unless they already know neither are likely to be Supreme bound. Thus far Ganapathi more likely I think.
      Whichever one is fav, you could back with Appreciate It NRNB in the Ballymore (while 4/1?) be a nice, yet safe, related double.

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      • Originally posted by Craigy14 View Post

        So if Power Of Paise or Ganapathi won really well, would that open the door up for Appreciate It to step up to the Ballymore?

        Paddy Power don’t have either priced up for the Supreme, unless they already know neither are likely to be Supreme bound. Thus far Ganapathi more likely I think.
        It will be interesting if Willie declares them both, to see who Paul Townend is riding.

        Power of Pause and Appreciate It are both owned by the Mastersons.
        It would take POP routing the field on Sunday to give them any thought of budging AI out of the Supreme.

        I am not sure that’s what would be happening, though he did win a sprint finish from Crosshill over 2M last time out, which is probably why he is entered over 2M again
        - to see what he has got, in a better race.
        Last edited by Saxon Warrior; 12 January 2021, 04:54 PM.
        "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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        • Can only imagine its traders dropping out, but Ferney Hollow cut absolutely massively for both Supreme & Ballymore on Betfair exchanges.

          Not back in any bookmaker markets, so looks like traders just taking offers down due to news of out of Festival.

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          • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

            Whichever one is fav, you could back with Appreciate It NRNB in the Ballymore (while 4/1?) be a nice, yet safe, related double.
            Could be a good shout! Also related double with Gaillard and Ganapathi too, if he’s fav.

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            • Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post

              It will be interesting if Willie declares them both, to see who Paul Townend is riding.

              Power of Puase and Appreciate It are both owned by the Mastersons.
              It would take POP routing the field on Sunday to give them any thought of budging AI out of the Supreme.

              I am not sure that’s would be happening, though he did win a sprint finish from Crosshill over 2M last time out, which is probably why he is entered over 2M again
              - to see what he has got, in a better race.
              Be more interesting if he rides the mare.

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              • Originally posted by Craigy14 View Post

                So if Power Of Paise or Ganapathi won really well, would that open the door up for Appreciate It to step up to the Ballymore?

                Paddy Power don’t have either priced up for the Supreme, unless they already know neither are likely to be Supreme bound. Thus far Ganapathi more likely I think.
                I think it would have to go past really well tbh. Piss up like a weapon on roids then maybe, but I doubt they'll be rushing to the Ballymore which come tomorrow (with BO) and BMG could look a lot more competitive.

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                • Originally posted by Craigy14 View Post

                  So if Power Of Paise or Ganapathi won really well, would that open the door up for Appreciate It to step up to the Ballymore?

                  Paddy Power don’t have either priced up for the Supreme, unless they already know neither are likely to be Supreme bound. Thus far Ganapathi more likely I think.
                  Would have my doubts whether they win or lose the weekend either are good enough for a Supreme

                  the only chance of Appreciate It stepping up is if he got found out for speed at the DRF I think

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                  • Power Of Pause is rated 136, if he doesn't do anything spectacular in the Moscow Flyer he could be one for the County or Pipe. I suspect the latter would be most likely to suit though.

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                    • When Master Mcshee wins.
                      It's game over, for most of these.

                      Hills have him 7/4 FAV for this.
                      Sky went 13/2, but now 4's.

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                      • Originally posted by Craigy14 View Post

                        So if Power Of Paise or Ganapathi won really well, would that open the door up for Appreciate It to step up to the Ballymore?

                        Paddy Power don’t have either priced up for the Supreme, unless they already know neither are likely to be Supreme bound. Thus far Ganapathi more likely I think.
                        Not sure when it was added but Power of Pause 33s with PP for supreme

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                        • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
                          When Master Mcshee wins.
                          It's game over, for most of these.

                          Hills have him 7/4 FAV for this.
                          Sky went 13/2, but now 4's.
                          So will it be one of those scenarios that if MM wins AI fans celebrate the form line and if he gets beat fairly convincingly it gets brushed aside a little I wonder? After what MM has done since maybe AI didn’t have to improve as much as originally assumed when winning the future champions. Irascible needs further imo Ballyadam underperformed and so on. So if something like POP beats MM fairly well then it all may get a little interesting. Personally I think the 33s nrmb with pp is a very fair price.

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                          • I didn’t mean to attach Q’s post to mine. No idea how that happened

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                            • Yep, think 33 nrnb(boosted to 35 with sp book) is very fair as well.
                              Hopefully it looks even fairer soon!!
                              Cheers Rooster.

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                              • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                                Be more interesting if he rides the mare.
                                I would love that.
                                "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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