Supreme Novices Hurdle 2021

[FinalFurlong91]

Favourite for a Grade 1 though...

If you're right, you'd get your money back as unlikely to run in the Supreme if he shows he ain't Grade 1 level.

If you're wrong, 40/1 becomes.....?


I think that's the angle


I'd love him to be Grade 1 level, I'd have even more on Appreciate It though

Doubt he'll go off fav for that race on Sunday (grade 2 Moscow flyer)


Just dont see him as a contender personally

He got given a brilliant ride against appreciate it stealing a few lengths but appreciate it still went past him like he was in quicksand

[Kevloaf]

Doubt he'll go off fav for that race on Sunday (grade 2 Moscow flyer)


Just dont see him as a contender personally

He got given a brilliant ride against appreciate it stealing a few lengths but appreciate it still went past him like he was in quicksand

So it is, assumed that's been a Grade 1 given the winners - apologies!

Appreciate It would go past plenty of horses like that, Magic Tricks and Ganapathi....




Someone did mention yesterday or the day before, if he's well beaten, Appreciate It fans will just ignore it, which is spot on, I absolutely will

Easy decision for me though, added Ganapathi NRNB at 33/1 for similar reasons as above as I think he'll either win or not run.

....and backed Magic Tricks speculatively ages ago and whilst I'd be surprised if he's good enough, I wouldn't cash it out now...

[isitmarchyet]

You're all making me wish I'd got access to an NRNB account with the case made for Master McShee.

Might try and get him priced up for one of those win today + Supreme bets later in the week. Although that'll mean I've well and truly put the curse on him.

[Rooster Booster]

So it is, assumed that's been a Grade 1 given the winners - apologies!

Appreciate It would go past plenty of horses like that, Magic Tricks and Ganapathi....




Someone did mention yesterday or the day before, if he's well beaten, Appreciate It fans will just ignore it, which is spot on, I absolutely will

Easy decision for me though, added Ganapathi NRNB at 33/1 for similar reasons as above as I think he'll either win or not run.

....and backed Magic Tricks speculatively ages ago and whilst I'd be surprised if he's good enough, I wouldn't cash it out now...

‘Twas me Kev. Like the candour... Appreciate It even.....

[jack1092]

Doubt he'll go off fav for that race on Sunday (grade 2 Moscow flyer)


Just dont see him as a contender personally

He got given a brilliant ride against appreciate it stealing a few lengths but appreciate it still went past him like he was in quicksand

What would you have fav for Sunday out of interest?

He was very impressive in both his starts since...that handicap he won swinging was a fair race.

I've taken him on this Sunday but 40-1 NRNB for the Supreme is absurd.

[FinalFurlong91]

What would you have fav for Sunday out of interest?

He was very impressive in both his starts since...that handicap he won swinging was a fair race.

I've taken him on this Sunday but 40-1 NRNB for the Supreme is absurd.

Id imagine whichever of the mullins horses townend rides will go off fav

Id like fire attack but he's been running like they want a nice handicap mark

[FinalFurlong91]

The more I look at that grade 2 on sunday the more I think master mcshee probably has a good chance as most of them look very average

I'm still a bit miffed i didnt have more on him in the handicap the last day, but my head was still spinning after the horse I thought was the ballymore winner romped home over 2 miles beating my supreme fancy hahaha

If he does win then appreciate it will probably go 6/4 and is a certainty

[Kevloaf]

The more I look at that grade 2 on sunday the more I think master mcshee probably has a good chance as most of them look very average

I'm still a bit miffed i didnt have more on him in the handicap the last day, but my head was still spinning after the horse I thought was the ballymore winner romped home over 2 miles beating my supreme fancy hahaha

If he does win then appreciate it will probably go 6/4 and is a certainty

Sounds like a smart double....

Master McShee - Moscow Flyer, with Appreciate It in the Supreme

[FinalFurlong91]

Sounds like a smart double....

Master McShee - Moscow Flyer, with Appreciate It in the Supreme

There is definitely a logic to that double that makes sense

I'm just getting the feeling il miss out on appreciate it this year

Tried to get him in a treble with farouk d'alene(limerick)/mcfabulous (relkeel) but the bloody relkeel meeting was abandoned so hes only a small winner

Tempted to have one last go

[Kevloaf]

To be fair FinalFurlong91 you might be best waiting for the bookie specials..... money back if beaten, a zillion places etc?

I nailed my colours to the mast that AI would end up better than FH and that he was the Ballymore horse.... I've had to adjust but I'll be horrified if he's beaten. Whilst I do like Metier, if I was picking a field against him, it'd be an unknown British hope... that's looked good but not got form in the book.

[Topofthegame2021]

Backed Magic Tricks for this yesterday @ 40/1 on B365 - today he’s been cut to 28/-1. Is this because they’re preparing for NRNB or due to his Moscow Flyer entry?

[jack1092]

To be fair FinalFurlong91 you might be best waiting for the bookie specials..... money back if beaten, a zillion places etc?

They'll have offers on but i was listening to a podcast with a Neil Channing + a few others on and they were discussing the chance that bookies won't be as forthcoming with offers this festival....

[jack1092]

Backed Magic Tricks for this yesterday @ 40/1 on B365 - today he’s been cut to 28/-1. Is this because they’re preparing for NRNB or due to his Moscow Flyer entry?

Probably because he's treading the same path as some of Gordie's better horses. If he wins he'll be cut a fair bit still i'd imagine.

[Topofthegame2021]

“Ballyadam also disappointed and while he is much better than that, I'm not sure he would be good enough to get to Appreciate It anyway” Keith Donoghue

BOLLOCKS haha

[jack1092]

Power Of Pause seems to be getting more of the chat from the WPM's entries for the Moscow in here. I'd say he's my least favourite of the 3 entries. Getting 5 from Crosshill who was strangely dropped in trip for that race. The third of WPM's is certainly not a star herself, and ran Crosshill close for 2nd.

Ganapathi has to be of some sort of interest. He came out at an interesting time for Mullin's novice hurdlers. Some of them were running like they really needed their runs. GDM, Stattler, Shadow Rider and Glens of Antrim just 4 to have improved drastically from their first runs. Obviously being the trainer he is, he had winners amongst his novices at the time, Blue Lord, Fighter Allen, Ferny and Appreciate It to name a few. Ganapathi winning on only his 2nd start of his life ranks pretty good in my book considering the above. Times aren't an exact science but he ran favourably compared to Appreciate It (at a saunter) and Thedevilscoachman.
He'd obviously need to be very good on Sunday to be a Supreme contender, but i'd very much be in the PP/BF 3/1 book rather than the 7/1 with Hills.

Townend takes the ride.
Danny on the mare.
Presume David on POP but not jocked as yet. Rode last time, and not a negative. David Mullins is mustard from the front. Still would be disappointed if he's good enough on what he's shown.