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Supreme Novices Hurdle 2021

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  • Power Of Pause seems to be getting more of the chat from the WPM's entries for the Moscow in here. I'd say he's my least favourite of the 3 entries. Getting 5 from Crosshill who was strangely dropped in trip for that race. The third of WPM's is certainly not a star herself, and ran Crosshill close for 2nd.

    Ganapathi has to be of some sort of interest. He came out at an interesting time for Mullin's novice hurdlers. Some of them were running like they really needed their runs. GDM, Stattler, Shadow Rider and Glens of Antrim just 4 to have improved drastically from their first runs. Obviously being the trainer he is, he had winners amongst his novices at the time, Blue Lord, Fighter Allen, Ferny and Appreciate It to name a few. Ganapathi winning on only his 2nd start of his life ranks pretty good in my book considering the above. Times aren't an exact science but he ran favourably compared to Appreciate It (at a saunter) and Thedevilscoachman.
    He'd obviously need to be very good on Sunday to be a Supreme contender, but i'd very much be in the PP/BF 3/1 book rather than the 7/1 with Hills.

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    • Originally posted by jack1092 View Post
      Ganapathi has to be of some sort of interest. He came out at an interesting time for Mullin's novice hurdlers. Some of them were running like they really needed their runs. GDM, Stattler, Shadow Rider and Glens of Antrim just 4 to have improved drastically from their first runs. Obviously being the trainer he is, he had winners amongst his novices at the time, Blue Lord, Fighter Allen, Ferny and Appreciate It to name a few. Ganapathi winning on only his 2nd start of his life ranks pretty good in my book considering the above. Times aren't an exact science but he ran favourably compared to Appreciate It (at a saunter) and Thedevilscoachman.
      He'd obviously need to be very good on Sunday to be a Supreme contender, but i'd very much be in the PP/BF 3/1 book rather than the 7/1 with Hills.
      The 33/1 NRNB probably worth a poke, if he does win the Moscow Flyer, you're not going to be annoyed with it....

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      • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post
        I'm slightly cooling on appreciate it for this tbh

        I was gutted when he bolted up and only having him backed for the ballymore

        But with ballyadam running no race what has he really beaten

        Irascible is very inexperienced and keskonrisk looks like he needs further and his trainer is in awful form

        Don't see either of those as being close to grade 1 horses right at this stage of their careers

        Theres just that lingering thought in my mind that he's a 3 mile ptp and 2m4f bumper winner and that he will be better suited by the ballymore

        Wouldnt surprise me at all if he got picked up by a faster horse just like in the bumper in the last furlong

        Its just figuring out what to take him on with that I cant get my head around
        Think the horse I have been looking for may be Blue Lord

        I thought he jumped superbly then but was so keen and surely needs a drop back in trip

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        • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

          Think the horse I have been looking for may be Blue Lord

          I thought he jumped superbly then but was so keen and surely needs a drop back in trip
          I don't disagree FF but it always worries me when trainers appear to have got a horses distance wrong, there's no-one else on the planet that knows them as well as their handlers so his work must have suggested he's a 20f+ horse.
          Unless of course it's all part of a clever County Hurdle plan...

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          • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

            I don't disagree FF but it always worries me when trainers appear to have got a horses distance wrong, there's no-one else on the planet that knows them as well as their handlers so his work must have suggested he's a 20f+ horse.
            Unless of course it's all part of a clever County Hurdle plan...
            I'm scouting around for any race prices for that exact reason

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            • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

              I'm scouting around for any race prices for that exact reason
              Just been doing the same and can't find any! 16/1 NRNB with Paddy not attractive enough for the Supreme I dont think

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              • Sky are 33/1 for this which is tempting for a small each way play

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                • Just backed Master Mcshee.

                  PP have him 40-1 NRNB.

                  Which looks big considering he's favourite for the Moscow Flyer.

                  Not beat Appreciate It.
                  But neither will any of the others.

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                  • Decent compliment paid to Chemical Energy there. Not sure what plans are for him though

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                    • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
                      Just backed Master Mcshee.

                      PP have him 40-1 NRNB.

                      Which looks big considering he's favourite for the Moscow Flyer.

                      Not beat Appreciate It.
                      But neither will any of the others.
                      Very good, added this.

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                      • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
                        Just backed Master Mcshee.

                        PP have him 40-1 NRNB.

                        Which looks big considering he's favourite for the Moscow Flyer.

                        Not beat Appreciate It.
                        But neither will any of the others.
                        Cheers Q. A no brainer! Added.

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                        • Id be very surprised if he was grade 1 level personally

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                          • Anybody still give Fire Attack a chance in this? I'm on him any race and think he's more likely to run in the Martin Pipe or something, but he's entered in the Moscow Flyer and the 125/1 with 365 is a little bit tempting.

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                            • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post
                              Id be very surprised if he was grade 1 level personally
                              Favourite for a Grade 1 though...

                              If you're right, you'd get your money back as unlikely to run in the Supreme if he shows he ain't Grade 1 level.

                              If you're wrong, 40/1 becomes.....?


                              I think that's the angle


                              I'd love him to be Grade 1 level, I'd have even more on Appreciate It though

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                              • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                                Favourite for a Grade 1 though...

                                If you're right, you'd get your money back as unlikely to run in the Supreme if he shows he ain't Grade 1 level.

                                If you're wrong, 40/1 becomes.....?


                                I think that's the angle


                                I'd love him to be Grade 1 level, I'd have even more on Appreciate It though
                                Yep, I'd like to think he wouldn't win Sunday TBH.
                                Even though I backed him at 13/2.

                                But if he does.
                                As I mentioned it the other day.
                                It really is curtains for any other Irish horses chances. Unless you're a Ballyadam apologiser

                                His form lines would just dominate.
                                I may even jump on the Appreciate It 9/4 NRNB if he does win. But I half expect he's already priced like there are no other Irish challengers.
                                He'd only go really short if Metier dipped.

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