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I think Gordon is going to be very tempted to put Zanahiyr in the Supreme now.
He has a line on everything in Ireland, and also most horses in England through Duffle Coat, and I'd say he'll be pretty confident that both Zanahiyr and Quilixios are ahead of everything. He has those two plus Duffle Coat for the race, and does he really need to go in three handed? Does he want a one two in the Triumph when he may be able to take out the Supreme as well.
Ballyadam looks more than likely to chase Appreciate It home in the Supreme. And while he was closer at Leopardstown yesterday, and he could get closer with a cleaner round of jumping, I'm not sure he can turn it around. However based on comparative times from Quilixios to Appreciate It, they would be relatively close with the four year old allowance. The trouble is Quilixios isn't a novice because he won in March in France.
However Zanahiyr is. Elliott has said Zanahiyr is all about speed, and Quilixios is more of a stayer. Well if he wanted to split them and he thinks Zanahiyr is ahead in the pecking order at home, the 7lbs he'd receive from Appreciate It puts him very close on that literal line from Quilixios yesterday. Plus Zanhiyr would be suited by the old course on Tuesday, and Quilixos the new much stiffer course on Friday. He also has two feasible darts to fire at Appreciate It, and two feasible darts to fine at The Triumph.
Something like this has clearly been on their mind, because there have been noises previously about needing to split uo the juveniles, with both the Mares Novice Hurdle and the Supreme being mentioned as races under consideration. And I think the caomparative times yesterday will encourage them to go for it if they genuinely believe Zanahiyr is ahead of Quilixios. They surely must think they have a chance of toppling Appreciate It with him.
Also if Zanahiyr goes to the Supreme it opens up the possibility of Ballyadam going to the Ballymore Hurdle. Given Appreciate It already rates ahead of Bob Ollinger after putting him away tidily, and everyone had assumed that Ballyadam would be better over further, surely it's a gnenuine possibility as they make Festival plans. At the very least you'd think it'll be discussed, particularly on breeding you'd expect him to benefit for a step up in trip. And Gordon doesn't appear to have anything else for the Ballymore.
So what has been assumed so far is Zanahiyr and Quilixios 1-2 in the Triumph, and Ballyadam a place in the Supreme, but a switch in targets genuinely opens up the possibility of winning all three races. They have to try don't they?
He has a line on everything in Ireland, and also most horses in England through Duffle Coat, and I'd say he'll be pretty confident that both Zanahiyr and Quilixios are ahead of everything. He has those two plus Duffle Coat for the race, and does he really need to go in three handed? Does he want a one two in the Triumph when he may be able to take out the Supreme as well.
Ballyadam looks more than likely to chase Appreciate It home in the Supreme. And while he was closer at Leopardstown yesterday, and he could get closer with a cleaner round of jumping, I'm not sure he can turn it around. However based on comparative times from Quilixios to Appreciate It, they would be relatively close with the four year old allowance. The trouble is Quilixios isn't a novice because he won in March in France.
However Zanahiyr is. Elliott has said Zanahiyr is all about speed, and Quilixios is more of a stayer. Well if he wanted to split them and he thinks Zanahiyr is ahead in the pecking order at home, the 7lbs he'd receive from Appreciate It puts him very close on that literal line from Quilixios yesterday. Plus Zanhiyr would be suited by the old course on Tuesday, and Quilixos the new much stiffer course on Friday. He also has two feasible darts to fire at Appreciate It, and two feasible darts to fine at The Triumph.
Something like this has clearly been on their mind, because there have been noises previously about needing to split uo the juveniles, with both the Mares Novice Hurdle and the Supreme being mentioned as races under consideration. And I think the caomparative times yesterday will encourage them to go for it if they genuinely believe Zanahiyr is ahead of Quilixios. They surely must think they have a chance of toppling Appreciate It with him.
Also if Zanahiyr goes to the Supreme it opens up the possibility of Ballyadam going to the Ballymore Hurdle. Given Appreciate It already rates ahead of Bob Ollinger after putting him away tidily, and everyone had assumed that Ballyadam would be better over further, surely it's a gnenuine possibility as they make Festival plans. At the very least you'd think it'll be discussed, particularly on breeding you'd expect him to benefit for a step up in trip. And Gordon doesn't appear to have anything else for the Ballymore.
So what has been assumed so far is Zanahiyr and Quilixios 1-2 in the Triumph, and Ballyadam a place in the Supreme, but a switch in targets genuinely opens up the possibility of winning all three races. They have to try don't they?
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) as money is down at 33's, including some multiples, but the yard money is down on Zanahiyr (the early exchange money came plenty more than it did for Quilixios), surely there is more chance something like Duffle Coat goes Supreme as opposed to the the favourite of the Triumph. It would be a bizarre move, IMO, to move your best chance in a particular race just because you are mob handed.
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