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Stayers Hurdle 2021

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  • I think he'd be foolish not to give it a go tbh... Seeing as he's a sure fire chasing prospect you might as well give him a go as the festival over hurdles.

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    • Identity Thief won it same year of Tiger Roll’s first National - was a very nice 14/1 double on course

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      • Originally posted by Altior View Post
        I think he'd be foolish not to give it a go tbh... Seeing as he's a sure fire chasing prospect you might as well give him a go as the festival over hurdles.
        PFN is a realist. He said after today's win that he can't see how he'd beat Paisley or Thyme Hill at Cheltenham over the Stayers trip. It's difficult to argue with after what he showed at Newbury.

        He's 100% correct to target Aintree, imo. That race is made for him.

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        • Originally posted by Altior View Post
          I think he'd be foolish not to give it a go tbh... Seeing as he's a sure fire chasing prospect you might as well give him a go as the festival over hurdles.
          I think it is the mixture of the distance and the course that would be against him at the festival

          seems to be better suited by a flat track

          Nicholls is one of the best National Hunt trainers ever but he seems to have a host of horses that fall into this bracket

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          • I'm a little surprised to hear PN's comments today.

            It's not like him to admit defeat. I dont think he ever has in the past ?

            I'm happy in a way as I haven't got him covered in the stayers but on the other hand I also feel a little disappointed we dont get to see him at the festival.

            Clearly has huge ability and defo one to look out for in the future.

            King George type maybe ?

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            • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post

              PFN is a realist. He said after today's win that he can't see how he'd beat Paisley or Thyme Hill at Cheltenham over the Stayers trip. It's difficult to argue with after what he showed at Newbury.

              He's 100% correct to target Aintree, imo. That race is made for him.
              Absolutely my thoughts. Cheltenham shouldn't be the be all and end all. The Aintree race is absolutely tailor made for him, and there is no way on earth he's beating TH or PP up the hill for me.

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              • Originally posted by Kautothegreat8 View Post
                I'm a little surprised to hear PN's comments today.

                It's not like him to admit defeat. I dont think he ever has in the past ?

                I'm happy in a way as I haven't got him covered in the stayers but on the other hand I also feel a little disappointed we dont get to see him at the festival.

                Clearly has huge ability and defo one to look out for in the future.
                Looks like he could be a King George horse as a chaser

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                • Originally posted by Liammet View Post

                  Looks like he could be a King George horse as a chaser
                  Just edited

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                  • I'm still gutted mcfabulous didn't get in the Martin pipe

                    Was on at 25/1 he was slightly well handicapped off 132

                    only had 30lbs in hand

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                    • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post

                      Annie Power and The New One before that I think
                      Haha now I know you cheated

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                      • Originally posted by Kautostar View Post

                        Haha now I know you cheated
                        I go on the Thursday every year and haven't missed for over 10 years.

                        I enjoy it every bit as much as Cheltenham to be honest. If you've never been I'd recommend.

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                        • Originally posted by Kautothegreat8 View Post
                          I'm a little surprised to hear PN's comments today.

                          It's not like him to admit defeat. I dont think he ever has in the past ?

                          I'm happy in a way as I haven't got him covered in the stayers but on the other hand I also feel a little disappointed we dont get to see him at the festival.

                          Clearly has huge ability and defo one to look out for in the future.

                          King George type maybe ?
                          I’ve read the comments regarding a better change of winning over 20F at Aintree, and I get that it may be his optimum race to win.

                          But, for me, he is our top trainer for “giving it a go” more often than not, and to actually not give it a go in the Stayers first, is disappointing.

                          I recall a Dan Skelton interview in recent weeks where he said that he spoke to Paul Nicholls, who told him, if he was ever in two minds on a horse and a big race target, that he should give it a go, and don’t leave the race not knowing if a horse could have won it.

                          Nuff said, he doesn’t do as he says all of the time
                          "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                          • Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post

                            I’ve read the comments regarding a better change of winning over 20F at Aintree, and I get that it may be his optimum race to win.

                            But, for me, he is our top trainer for “giving it a go” more often than not, and to actually not give it a go in the Stayers first, is disappointing.

                            I recall a Dan Skelton interview in recent weeks where he said that he spoke to Paul Nicholls, who told him, if he was ever in two minds on a horse and a big race target, that he should give it a go, and don’t leave the race not knowing if a horse could have won it.

                            Nuff said, he doesn’t do as he says all of the time
                            In this case doesn't sound like PN is in two minds tbf

                            Just doesn't think mcfabulous stays well enough to reverse the form

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                            • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

                              In this case doesn't sound like PN is in two minds tbf

                              Just doesn't think mcfabulous stays well enough to reverse the form
                              Yes it does, it just seems odd to give a young horse one go only.
                              "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                              • Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post

                                Yes it does, it just seems odd to give a young horse one go only.
                                Also sounds like he doesnt want to give him a very hard race looking forward to his chase career

                                I wonder why he isn't novice chasing this year tbh

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