Mares Novice Hurdle 2021

[Energumene]

Based on what you think you know. 98% of people lose at this game because they dont have a clue what they are looking at. Love was 20/1 for both classics all winter. She left Mighty Blue standing at the 2nd last and maintained it in a sprint finish, MBs jumping will be put under serious pressure at Cheltenham and any mistakes severely punished unlike when crawling round Thurles in december. Its hard to win by a diatance off a slow pace against a G3 level flat horse. That race wasnt even close to getting to the bottom of Gauloise but because she didn't win by 15L people think shes not a superstar. She is, and youll see her quality stand out more in an elite race at Cheltenham.

[charlie]

Based on what you think you know. 98% of people lose at this game because they dont have a clue what they are looking at. Love was 20/1 for both classics all winter. She left Mighty Blue standing at the 2nd last and maintained it in a sprint finish, MBs jumping will be put under serious pressure at Cheltenham and any mistakes severely punished unlike when crawling round Thurles in december. It's hard to win by a diatance off a slow pace against a G3 level flat horse.That race wasnt even close to getting to the bottom of Gauloise but because she didn't win by 15L people think shes not a superstar. She is, and youll see her quality stand out more in an elite race at Cheltenham.

Yes, based on what I know. It's just an opinion, and not a particularly bold one. I think plenty will agree she's too short, others wont - it's just a discussion.

I love bold ante-post opinions - they often lead to great debate, but bold opinions illicit bold responses because people generally know the time of day on here (we are all in the 2% right )

Coming out with 'people need to learn more about the game' and 'people don't have a clue what they are looking etc ' doesn't sound like a healthy debate to me, especially when claiming a novice will win by 'half the track' at Cheltenham. Ironic if anything.

You've made some excellent contributions in your short time here, but let's just say the last 24 hours can be forgotten and we move on

As I have always prefaced in everything I have said re Gauloise, she could be a supertar, but is too short for me. It's as simple as that.

[ComplyOrDie]

As per Saxon Warrior Irish race planning thread, Gauloise, Finest Evermore and Hook Up the three Willie Mullins early entries in the Solerina.

Royal Kahala also entered, along with Riviere D'Etel for Gordon.

[Energumene]

Yes, based on what I know. It's just an opinion, and not a particularly bold one. I think plenty will agree she's too short, others wont - it's just a discussion.

I love bold ante-post opinions - they often lead to great debate, but bold opinions illicit bold responses because people generally know the time of day on here (we are all in the 2% right )

Coming out with 'people need to learn more about the game' and 'people don't have a clue what they are looking etc ' doesn't sound like a healthy debate to me, especially when claiming a novice will win by 'half the track' at Cheltenham. Ironic if anything.

You've made some excellent contributions in your short time here, but let's just say the last 24 hours can be forgotten and we move on

As I have always prefaced in everything I have said re Gauloise, she could be a supertar, but is too short for me. It's as simple as that.

Cover all the bases, if she fails you knew she was too short and if shes a superstar you also knew she could have been, clever.

if you think she could be a superstar and given connections and their record in race with similar types, why do you think shes too short?

Nothing else in the market looks any danger of being a superstar, especially not at 2 miles.

[ComplyOrDie]

Cover all the bases, if she fails you knew she was too short and if shes a superstar you also knew she could have been, clever.

if you think she could be a superstar and given connections and their record in race with similar types, why do you think shes too short?

Nothing else in the market looks any danger of being a superstar, especially not at 2 miles.

Well that's not entirely true, is it!

Riviere D'Etel could be anything? Brandy Love could still revert to hurdles? The likes of Gannat, Idoles Des Jeunes and Genola could turn up late on the scene? Whilst Royal Kahala has yet to win over 2m, she's unbeaten over hurdles?

On figures Gauloise has done no more (and in some cases, less) than most of what we have already seen. Only reason she is being hyped up on here is because she remains the only Mullins unbeaten mare, of those that we have seen out.

I have her covered at 20/1, so I'm not playing her down because I don't have her backed, she is currently my second biggest winner in the race, but I'm well aware it's far from a forgone conclusion, and certainly don't buy into the hype that seems to be surrounding her.

[charlie]

Cover all the bases, if she fails you knew she was too short and if shes a superstar you also knew she could have been, clever.

if you think she could be a superstar and given connections and their record in race with similar types, why do you think shes too short?

Nothing else in the market looks any danger of being a superstar, especially not at 2 miles.

What's with your attitude and why are you talking to me this way?

[Energumene]

What's with your attitude and why are you talking to me this way?

Sorry, must still be drunk from this morning.

[charlie]

Sorry, must still be drunk from this morning.

No worries, I can understand that. We can agree to disagree. GL with Galoise

[Energumene]

Well that's not entirely true, is it!

Riviere D'Etel could be anything? Brandy Love could still revert to hurdles? The likes of Gannat, Idoles Des Jeunes and Genola could turn up late on the scene? Whilst Royal Kahala has yet to win over 2m, she's unbeaten over hurdles?

On figures Gauloise has done no more (and in some cases, less) than most of what we have already seen. Only reason she is being hyped up on here is because she remains the only Mullins unbeaten mare, of those that we have seen out.

I have her covered at 20/1, so I'm not playing her down because I don't have her backed, she is currently my second biggest winner in the race, but I'm well aware it's far from a forgone conclusion, and certainly don't buy into the hype that seems to be surrounding her.

What hype surrounding her? Im personally responsible for about 95% of whatever hype surrounds her, most people think shes the lay of the meeting, including Patrick, Ruby and Willie according to many.

Not sure what scene those you mentioned will be turning up late on but it wont be the Cheltenham scene. The 4yo of Elliots has no chance, Royal Kahala beat a thoroughly exposed 3rd rater in Hook Up.

Im hyping Gauloise because she has everything, tactical speed, acceleration, excellent jumper, great attitude, shes a push button Rolls Royce who practically has a halo above her head and no one can see it, shes open to more improvement than most after only 3 runs, shes an exceptional prospect. Its not just because shes unbeaten and trained by mullins but that's hardly a negative is it.

[ComplyOrDie]

What hype surrounding her? Im personally responsible for about 95% of whatever hype surrounds her, most people think shes the lay of the meeting, including Patrick, Ruby and Willie according to many.

Not sure what scene those you mentioned will be turning up late on but it wont be the Cheltenham scene. The 4yo of Elliots has no chance, Royal Kahala beat a thoroughly exposed 3rd rater in Hook Up.

Im hyping Gauloise because she has everything, tactical speed, acceleration, excellent jumper, great attitude, shes a push button Rolls Royce who practically has a halo above her head and no one can see it, shes open to more improvement than most after only 3 runs, shes an exceptional prospect. Its not just because shes unbeaten and trained by mullins but that's hardly a negative is it.

Lobos has been on the hype train regarding her for a while now I believe. So, as much as you like to think you're the only one, I can assure you you are not. Where are the quotes from Patrick, Ruby and Willie that she's the lay of the meeting? I'd like to read/see all three please (not some photoshopped picture).

The turning up late scene, like Concertista did the year she finished 2nd in this race, feasibly possible for something to go straight to the race. Are you saying it's impossible then? And on what basis does Riviere D'Etel have "no chance"?

And the end of the day it is just your opinion, and without trying to sound too disrespectful I don't know what your opinion is worth yet, as you only joined this month. All I do know is that you may be handy using photoshop

[Energumene]

Lobos has been on the hype train regarding her for a while now I believe. So, as much as you like to think you're the only one, I can assure you you are not. Where are the quotes from Patrick, Ruby and Willie that she's the lay of the meeting? I'd like to read/see all three please (not some photoshopped picture).

The turning up late scene, like Concertista did the year she finished 2nd in this race, feasibly possible for something to go straight to the race. Are you saying it's impossible then? And on what basis does Riviere D'Etel have "no chance"?

And the end of the day it is just your opinion, and without trying to sound too disrespectful I don't know what your opinion is worth yet, as you only joined this month. All I do know is that you may be handy using photoshop

I think Lobos said he couldnt see her out the 3, i wouldnt call that hype, me saying shes a champion hurdle horse next season is hype. Patrick, Willie and Ruby didn't actually say that but ive seen all 3 of their comments being put up as negatives. And youre right, you dont know what my opinion s worth.

[Middle_Of_March]

I think Lobos said he couldnt see her out the 3, i wouldnt call that hype, me saying shes a champion hurdle horse next season is hype. Patrick, Willie and Ruby didn't actually say that but ive seen all 3 of their comments being put up as negatives. And youre right, you dont know what my opinion s worth.

Genuine question... what on earth have you seen from her that makes you think she’s a champion hurdle horse in 14 months time?

[Energumene]

Genuine question... what on earth have you seen from her that makes you think she’s a champion hurdle horse in 14 months time?

Ive seen everything you want in a CH horse, although i do watch her races after vaping.

[ComplyOrDie]

Ive seen everything you want in a CH horse, although i do watch her races after vaping.

Now I know you're on the wind up.

[Middle_Of_March]

Now I know you're on the wind up.

If it wasn’t already obvious.. it is now.