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  • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

    I posted
    You didn’t read properly
    they’ve not entered for the Irish champion
    I made the same mistake, looks like I need to read properly as well!!

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    • Snipets of blue for Honey. Do we have a back flip emoji?

      Lobos

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      • Originally posted by charlie View Post
        Snipets of blue for Honey. Do we have a back flip emoji?

        Lobos
        No back flips from me. I want her in the Mares Hurdle. If she goes Churdle and wins she will mess up my and many others numerous big price AP multiples with Envoi and Shishkin which is why I've tried to cover that scenario. Just don't see her losing the ICH so the Mares Hurdle doesn't look favourite

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        • Buveur D'Air being considered for a run in The New One hurdle at Haydock next weekend after working well this week.
          The owls are not what they seem

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          • Originally posted by Diamond Geezer View Post
            Buveur D'Air being considered for a run in The New One hurdle at Haydock next weekend after working well this week.
            Smoke screen to divert attention from Epatante I wonder?

            Whenever he talks one up, they usually flop?



            That is so much speculation on my part




            14s NRNB hasn't tempted me yet for Buveur D'air.... given some of his 'prep' runs I'm not sure he's one that'll be fully wound up on return.... you'd think March or nothing for him to be on top form?



            Definitely a horse I want to back, but can stop myself.

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            • Seagull has put up two for this in the RP

              Abacadabras 20/1

              Silver Streak 11/1

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              • Originally posted by Madmoose View Post
                Seagull has put up two for this in the RP

                Abacadabras 20/1

                Silver Streak 11/1
                Hmm that’s not good as I too think the price of Aba looks good value to my eye.

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                • Originally posted by Garrison Savannah View Post

                  Hmm that’s not good as I too think the price of Aba looks good value to my eye.
                  I'd starting chipping away at Aba on the exchanges at 20.0 - didn't realise he was available at 20/1 with B365.

                  They've just cut the 20s when I had him in the bet slip.

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                  • Bromley in RP

                    JDB is a speculative entry at this stage with his campaign geared to going novice chasing next season

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                    • Abacadabras seems and odd selection @ 16 when Aspire Tower can be backed at fractionally shorter (14/1). I'd be opting for the latter were I starting from scratch now. AT beat Aba fair and square first time up in good fashion, then smashed him the other day. Looks a better horse this season and Segal is basically clinging to that Supreme run to make his case.

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                      • Originally posted by charlie View Post
                        Abacadabras seems and odd selection @ 16 when Aspire Tower can be backed at fractionally shorter (14/1). I'd be opting for the latter were I starting from scratch now. AT beat Aba fair and square first time up in good fashion, then smashed him the other day. Looks a better horse this season and Segal is basically clinging to that Supreme run to make his case.
                        I think I'd be on Abacadabras and Aspire Tower if I was starting from scratch now.

                        Clinging to the Supreme run is the angle, but one I'd chance. If Shishkin is a superstar, Abacadabras must be better than he's shown? Lots needs to go right for him to win though. I feel like he could get a bit of momentum and shorten to a price where he's just a terrible bet on what he's shown so far this season alone.

                        Aspire Tower is progressing the right way, the problem with him is he's just so easy to poke a hole in, and if you mention him you have to mention Goshen, and byu the time that's done you go back to Epatante because how can you fancy Goshen

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                        • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                          I think I'd be on Abacadabras and Aspire Tower if I was starting from scratch now.

                          Clinging to the Supreme run is the angle, but one I'd chance. If Shishkin is a superstar, Abacadabras must be better than he's shown? Lots needs to go right for him to win though. I feel like he could get a bit of momentum and shorten to a price where he's just a terrible bet on what he's shown so far this season alone.

                          Aspire Tower is progressing the right way, the problem with him is he's just so easy to poke a hole in, and if you mention him you have to mention Goshen, and byu the time that's done you go back to Epatante because how can you fancy Goshen
                          I have one (AT) not the other, and will probably leave it that way (for now), but I see where you are coming from.

                          The supreme angle is very fair, and it might mean he's better than he's shown so far (and is therefore value), or it might mean he hasn't progressed in open company. I think its incredibly hard to know which one to think, and its a big question mark now reflected by probably the right price. I really think he could go either way.

                          I don't think (could be wrong) the same difficulty applies to Aspire Tower though. I think he's shown clear improvement, certainly past many of those he was running against as a Juvenile. Haha yeh Goshen wont carry a bean of my money for this (but that seed of doubt is planted where he would have demolished AT last year)

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                          • Originally posted by charlie View Post

                            I have one (AT) not the other, and will probably leave it that way (for now), but I see where you are coming from.

                            The supreme angle is very fair, and it might mean he's better than he's shown so far (and is therefore value), or it might mean he hasn't progressed in open company. I think its incredibly hard to know which one to think, and its a big question mark now reflected by probably the right price. I really think he could go either way.

                            I don't think (could be wrong) the same difficulty applies to Aspire Tower though. I think he's shown clear improvement, certainly past many of those he was running against as a Juvenile. Haha yeh Goshen wont carry a bean of my money for this (but that seed of doubt is planted where he would have demolished AT last year)
                            Yeah they are totally different as betting prospects in terms of which is 'more solid'.

                            I like both but for different reasons. It's a bit like a 28 runner handicap and just backing one from each side of the draw because you have no idea and this game is too hard

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                            • another post in sportinglife tipping up abacadabras and sky have special at 20s for him to win...

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                              • Originally posted by fatherjohn View Post
                                another post in sportinglife tipping up abacadabras and sky have special at 20s for him to win...
                                Can’t help but think they are being crafty. It’s like when skysports announce so and so in line for next manager job, take a flurry of bets and then nothing else is mentioned of said manager.

                                whilst I am hoping for a turn around in Aba’s season, I just think Sky and Sporting Life are trying to entice people in to parting with their hard earned!

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