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2022 Ballymore Novices Hurdle

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  • Originally posted by isitmarchyet View Post
    I know a lot of people like Ramillies more for the Bartlett, but he's out to 125/1 NRNB with Bet365 for the Ballymore. Runs over 2m4 tomorrow. Seems like a no-brainer to me, no way he goes off anything like that price if he wins tomorrow and if he doesn't, then he won't run anyway.
    Apologies I though it was 2,7 tomoz but I see he's entered in that on Thursday! So yeah 125/1 is decent!

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    • DD being laid at 13 for this now...

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      • Originally posted by Silverbirch View Post

        Apologies I though it was 2,7 tomoz but I see he's entered in that on Thursday! So yeah 125/1 is decent!
        Bit tricky really because he's declared for tomorrow over 2m4 and he's also been declared over 2m7 on Thursday...

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        • Originally posted by Can't Catch Me View Post
          DD being laid at 13 for this now...
          Cashout gone for me aswell

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          • Originally posted by isitmarchyet View Post
            I know a lot of people like Ramillies more for the Bartlett, but he's out to 125/1 NRNB with Bet365 for the Ballymore. Runs over 2m4 tomorrow. Seems like a no-brainer to me, no way he goes off anything like that price if he wins tomorrow and if he doesn't, then he won't run anyway.
            365 long on a few at moment....miles higher

            Is this normal or an error?
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            • Originally posted by TigerRolllllll View Post

              365 long on a few at moment....miles higher

              Is this normal or an error?
              I think they're actively getting some wild ones so people (like me) tie up their cash with a view to 're-investing' it festival week.

              I assume they 'get' plenty of people that way

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              • Originally posted by TigerRolllllll View Post

                365 long on a few at moment....miles higher

                Is this normal or an error?
                They've really shortened the head of the market and taken a flyer on some they don't fancy. If you do a 'favourites' acca on Oddschecker, they are so short right now. Which is odd as they were previously one of the better priced.

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                • Ballymore Novices’ Hurdle – Sir Gerhard, State Man, Minella Cocconer, Whatdowewant, Classic Getaway

                  “Sir Gerhard does everything right, except for the last day when we made the running and I thought it just didn’t suit him. He was so professional when he was in behind runners in Leopardstown the first day and I have no doubt that in whichever race he runs in, getting a lead will be fine. If he doesn’t get a lead this time I think both Paul and horse will know better and I think Sir Gerhard learned a lot.

                  “He’s got plenty speed and he jumps well so I’m looking forward to getting him over there. He could go in either race and I don’t think it really matters which we pick as I think he stays, so you could toss a coin at this stage.”

                  “I thought Danny gave Minella Cocconer a terrific ride to win at Leopardstown last time and I was really impressed with how he jumped. Danny settled him and got his breathers into him. He’s in the Ballymore and the Albert Bartlett and his style of racing could be tough for the latter.

                  “I haven’t made my mind up on him yet, you would think that the Ballymore would be the race for him though looking at his style of running, jumping and racing. However whether he is good enough is another decision I’m going to have to make. He takes a lot out of himself when racing so we’ll see where we go with him.

                  “State Man fell at Leopardstown and then won over two miles at Limerick. He’s a horse that’s improving and I haven’t put much thought into which race he’ll go. I imagine there’s no problem with him staying so the chances are he could go to the Ballymore. We could look at the County Hurdle though with a fall on your CV I’d be dubious. I’ll leave things open for now.

                  “I’d imagine Classic Getaway wants a trip and perhaps the Ballymore as I’d imagine he wouldn’t have enough experience for an Albert Bartlett.

                  “Whatdeawant is Ballymore bound from what I can gather as he’s the sponsor’s (Sean & Bernardine Mulryan) horse. He was disappointing at Naas and I just don’t think he did things right that day.”



                  Btw Minella Cocooner is 40/1 for this ante post with 365

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                  • Good spot on Cocooner

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                    • "Dysart Dynamo was very free the last day in front but I think Paul has said to me on more than one occasion that when he settles behind a horse he’s fine so I would leave it until late on.”

                      Just thinking out loud, but kinda sounds like he wants DD to have someone to settle behind. Guaranteed to get that here if Crooner comes?

                      No obvious front runner in the Supreme, would expect Sir G/DD would be the one leading them around.

                      Exciting that we can finally start thinking potential race strategies... Getting close

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                      • Originally posted by Winging The Last View Post
                        Ballymore Novices’ Hurdle – Sir Gerhard, State Man, Minella Cocconer, Whatdowewant, Classic Getaway

                        “Sir Gerhard does everything right, except for the last day when we made the running and I thought it just didn’t suit him. He was so professional when he was in behind runners in Leopardstown the first day and I have no doubt that in whichever race he runs in, getting a lead will be fine. If he doesn’t get a lead this time I think both Paul and horse will know better and I think Sir Gerhard learned a lot.

                        “He’s got plenty speed and he jumps well so I’m looking forward to getting him over there. He could go in either race and I don’t think it really matters which we pick as I think he stays, so you could toss a coin at this stage.”

                        “I thought Danny gave Minella Cocconer a terrific ride to win at Leopardstown last time and I was really impressed with how he jumped. Danny settled him and got his breathers into him. He’s in the Ballymore and the Albert Bartlett and his style of racing could be tough for the latter.

                        “I haven’t made my mind up on him yet, you would think that the Ballymore would be the race for him though looking at his style of running, jumping and racing. However whether he is good enough is another decision I’m going to have to make. He takes a lot out of himself when racing so we’ll see where we go with him.

                        “State Man fell at Leopardstown and then won over two miles at Limerick. He’s a horse that’s improving and I haven’t put much thought into which race he’ll go. I imagine there’s no problem with him staying so the chances are he could go to the Ballymore. We could look at the County Hurdle though with a fall on your CV I’d be dubious. I’ll leave things open for now.

                        “I’d imagine Classic Getaway wants a trip and perhaps the Ballymore as I’d imagine he wouldn’t have enough experience for an Albert Bartlett.

                        “Whatdeawant is Ballymore bound from what I can gather as he’s the sponsor’s (Sean & Bernardine Mulryan) horse. He was disappointing at Naas and I just don’t think he did things right that day.”



                        Btw Minella Cocooner is 40/1 for this ante post with 365
                        So that’s 4 for the Ballymore without adding SG/DD to the mix. That’s quite a few more than I was expecting.. is it possible SG and DD aren’t split and both run in the Supreme?

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                        • Originally posted by DeeBee View Post

                          So that’s 4 for the Ballymore without adding SG/DD to the mix. That’s quite a few more than I was expecting.. is it possible SG and DD aren’t split and both run in the Supreme?
                          I think Paul townend will want to ride both

                          Willie seems fairly non committal maybe townends opinion on which one he wants to ride in the supreme will push him one way or the other

                          only way both go supreme is if the ground gets very soft imo

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                          • Journey with me 14.5 for this on exchange and 40 for bartlett. Enough of a drift to be a worry?

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                            • Originally posted by riccirich View Post
                              Journey with me 14.5 for this on exchange and 40 for bartlett. Enough of a drift to be a worry?
                              Nah, everyone hates him now.

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                              • Minella Cocooner still 40/1 in the none nrnb market on 365 for this.

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