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  • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

    Yeah, maybe he'll run 2 .... maybe 3

    Only 1 will have a chance of winning


    Patrick will be on the only one that can win. I don't care about the also rans

    I had 9 points on Minella Cocooner hoping he'd be qualified, or at least won and shortened by now, but that looks foolish

    Embassy Gardens and Grangeclare West his only 2 qualified so far? GW looks BANC, I'm not on Embassy Gardens but I think Patrick will be on him or Nick Rockett ..... entries will be very important
    The feeling is Minella C is too free/keen both at home and on the track at the moment to be considered for the race but see how he goes in his next few...

    Embassy in pole position right now for the race - and thats from the main mans mouth!

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    • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post
      I'll watch it back again but didn't see much wrong with Corbetts Cross' jumping, especially in the second half of the race. He was a little slow on occasion but like a snooker table seems a tad harsh

      I'd be pointing the finger at the ride he was given. Held up in last, giving away 10 to 15 lengths at the start of the race was balmy in a grade 1. I think the ride gives credence to Quevega's theory that they might be working backwards from a big target (Grand National).
      Completely agree. As soon as he was dropped out, I said that looks like an Irish National run. But Grand National might make more sense as the weights would be published before Cheltenham. He could then take in the BANC or even the Ultima on route.

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      • Some food for thought about Embassy Gardens

        Track direction form -
        Left Handed - 154P (the one win was a bumper by a nose to Santonito)
        Right Handed - 2161

        Graded Form - 5P6

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        • Originally posted by Run4Home View Post

          Planning to give him a break and run in the Ingre or Murat as his prep for the Grand Steeple
          Great news, delighted if they skip Cheltenham, looks a fecking tool

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          • Originally posted by Run4Home View Post

            The feeling is Minella C is too free/keen both at home and on the track at the moment to be considered for the race but see how he goes in his next few...

            Embassy in pole position right now for the race - and thats from the main mans mouth!
            Personally surprised about Embassy i couldn't have him on my mind for it, but time will tell.

            Issue i have with my long time "considered" one, is he might be considered more interesting for a big handicap over 3m or something- Nick Rockett. Not sure he's a g1 horse.

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            • Originally posted by Winging The Last View Post
              Some food for thought about Embassy Gardens

              Track direction form -
              Left Handed - 154P (the one win was a bumper by a nose to Santonito)
              Right Handed - 2161

              Graded Form - 5P6
              Looks like he enjoys beating inferior rivals

              Up in grade hes out of his comfort zone and folds

              That is so far anyway

              He will have the opportunity to show us more next time

              but it's very hard to strongly fancy him at this stage until he proves he can perform in graded races

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              • Originally posted by jack1092 View Post

                Personally surprised about Embassy i couldn't have him on my mind for it, but time will tell.

                Issue i have with my long time "considered" one, is he might be considered more interesting for a big handicap over 3m or something- Nick Rockett. Not sure he's a g1 horse.
                Embassy came back a lot stronger & nicer horse this year and one which has improved for a fence, had a great first run settled, jumped and galloped and fits the mould of one that'll fall just below RSA level likely, running in some graded races previous. Just the feeling now but next races for 1 or 2 will obviously decide how they split.

                Yeah Nick wouldn't be one I'd consider at all for an RSA, don't see him at that level but his next run will decide where he goes long term. Embassy and himself would be the only 2 of interest in the NHC for me, whichever ends up there as there the only 2 that'll likely end up being the #1 and Gordon doesn't look to have a great hand there.

                NR will either be #1 in the NHC or a 2nd or 3rd string RSA you'd think, don't have hills but he was 10's NRNB for the NHC post race yesterday (might still be?) which was the bet to take.
                Last edited by Run4Home; 2 January 2024, 03:47 PM.

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                • Originally posted by Run4Home View Post

                  The feeling is Minella C is too free/keen both at home and on the track at the moment to be considered for the race but see how he goes in his next few...

                  Embassy in pole position right now for the race - and thats from the main mans mouth!
                  What's your thoughts on Nick Rockett R4H and the chances of Gaelic Warrior running against Marine Nationale at the DRF ??

                  No pressure

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                  • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                    What's your thoughts on Nick Rockett R4H and the chances of Gaelic Warrior running against Marine Nationale at the DRF ??

                    No pressure
                    NR above mate , NHC or nothing for me so a good NRNB there. He’s never one they’ve considered as one of the top ones in the order.

                    GW no idea it’ll be a few weeks before they decide how to split but I’d say as good a chance he won’t go to DRF as he would , could easily keep him right until Chelt. Don’t think anything will be beating Marine going left over 2m anyway. GW a different animal going right handed and soft ground important too.

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                    • Money for Mister Policeman tonight in the right place . Into 14/1 with Paddies.

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                      • Originally posted by Run4Home View Post

                        NR above mate , NHC or nothing for me so a good NRNB there. He’s never one they’ve considered as one of the top ones in the order.

                        GW no idea it’ll be a few weeks before they decide how to split but I’d say as good a chance he won’t go to DRF as he would , could easily keep him right until Chelt. Don’t think anything will be beating Marine going left over 2m anyway. GW a different animal going right handed and soft ground important too.
                        A few rumblings that they'll give G Warrior a final try LH at DRF and then make a decision re Festival based on that. For me that makes complete sense. Whether Willie takes that stance I'm not sure.

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                        • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                          Money for Mister Policeman tonight in the right place . Into 14/1 with Paddies.
                          I doubt it's money, more likely just he's entered in a race Mullins runs his Arkle horse in.

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                          • Looks like a cat walked over Denise' keyboard, currently has e/w as 12 places for the BANC

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                            • Originally posted by HoldenTheReins View Post

                              I doubt it's money, more likely just he's entered in a race Mullins runs his Arkle horse in.
                              That'll do even better

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                              • ….Marine National’s season mapped out;

                                The Irish Arkle, the Arkle and then the Punchestown Festival is the route drawn out for him and Connell reports the bay to be faring well as he moves towards his next engagement.

                                “We couldn’t be happier with the way he’s come out of the race,” the trainer said.

                                “He jumped great, never made a mistake and he seems to be in great nick.

                                “He’s had a couple of quiet days, he’ll start back riding out tomorrow and we’ll be building up to the Irish Arkle at the Dublin Racing Festival.

                                “From next weekend it’s only three weekends away, so it won’t be long at all coming around.

                                “The spin he had at Christmas should leave him spot on, it’s the exact same course and distance and the ground will hopefully be a bit drier, but he has proven he can run on any ground.

                                “We wouldn’t want to see him on bottomless but he’s probably a bit more ground versatile than we thought.

                                “He’s in a good place, he’s happy and we’re looking forward to him hopefully doing the same in Dublin and after that we’ll be on to the Arkle.”

                                The seven-year-old had to do more than just win to impress onlookers as his reputation is significant, but he still managed to surpass high hopes – particularly with the accurate round of jumping he produced.

                                “Even if you’re Constitution Hill, when the season ends and a new one starts you kind of have to go back to basics and prove yourself all over again,” Connell said.

                                “We liked what we were seeing at home but of course we were apprehensive going into the race, just hoping everything would go right and nothing silly would happen.

                                “He exceeded our expectations in how well he’s taken to fences, he’s going to be going to Cheltenham on the back of a beginners’ race and a Grade One and that’s the exact same profile he had last year when he went with a maiden hurdle win and a Royal Bond win.

                                “He won’t lack for experience when he’s been around Leopardstown for a second time, they’re big fences there and it’s quite a daunting thing for a novice to go around there, but if he can do similar there in three weeks, he’ll be well set up for the challenges afterwards.

                                “We have him back in the same order as last year and he’s proven he can jump really quickly and efficiently. I know he’s a short-priced favourite for the Arkle now but I think that’s probably justified based on what he’s achieved so far.”

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