2024 Novice Chasers

[That Horse]

[QUOTE=Lobos;n445665]

Has Willie ever won a Handicap Chase at the Festival?

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I thought that was the big thing too, he doesn't bother sending his good ones to the handicap chases at the festival. He'd either run one in the graded races or keep it back for an Irish handicap where the money is nearly always better.

Maybe Facile Vega will come back and perform or Blood Destiny will look great today but apart from that, Hunters Yarn is probably his best shout to run in the Arkle at this moment in time.

[Carnage at Taunton]

Thought I was going mad ….exactly that !! Second best seen this season ….not sure Willie has better unless switches GW or F2F

Blood Destiny is 5-year old & seems to have lot hype in price

Blood Destiny is a lot better at jumping a fence from what I’ve seen so far

[That Horse]

Blood Destiny is a lot better at jumping a fence from what I’ve seen so far

Just find it hard to fancy an ex-triumph horse running as a 5 year old at the festival. Apple's Jade the only one I can think of that won the following year.

I am slightly hypocritical by the way, having backed Gala Marceau for the mare's

[Lobos]

Blood Destiny is a lot better at jumping a fence from what I’ve seen so far

I go back to El Fabiolo"s win at the DRF last season when he took a fence with him but still won easily. You do find with these good Novice Chasers making a big mistake in their early races can turn out to be an advantage going forward as they learn from it and try not to do it again.

Hunters crashed out on debut but then the only mistake he made yesterday, in what was otherwise an impeccable round of jumping , he learnt to stay on his feet. He looks to have a serious engine too.

[Rooster Booster]

I go back to El Fabiolo"s win at the DRF last season when he took a fence with him but still won easily. You do find with these good Novice Chasers making a big mistake in their early races can turn out to be an advantage going forward as they learn from it and try not to do it again.

Hunters crashed out on debut but then the only mistake he made yesterday, in what was otherwise an impeccable round of jumping , he learnt to stay on his feet. He looks to have a serious engine too.

Why do you ? EF gets away with it because he has way more talent than his rivals. So he wins despite not because of his jumping. HY has nowhere near the kind of talent that allows him such luxury. It’s absolutely pointless using EF to defend another horses poor jumping unless they are of the same level ability wise and very very few are.

[billymag]

Harry said he could go any distance and that he's clearly got plenty of speed the way he quickened up today.

I haven't backed him but from that I'd say Turners would be favourite imo.

Yeah you could be right, personally think he would be more suited to the RSA. Worry would be that he skips and goes to Aintree but will see. Was shame Dan wasnt there as think he would of not been able to hide his excitement and blabbed out the plan.

[Lobos]

Why do you ? EF gets away with it because he has way more talent than his rivals. So he wins despite not because of his jumping. HY has nowhere near the kind of talent that allows him such luxury. It’s absolutely pointless using EF to defend another horses poor jumping unless they are of the same level ability wise and very very few are.

I happen to think Hunters Yarn is very talented. Not at EF level yet but he's certainly made a very impressive start to his chasing career. He looks a big strong type too. Time will tell.

[Stormez]

Just find it hard to fancy an ex-triumph horse running as a 5 year old at the festival. Apple's Jade the only one I can think of that won the following year.

I am slightly hypocritical by the way, having backed Gala Marceau for the mare's

Katchit didn’t do too bad as a 5yo!

[Lobos]

Yeah you could be right, personally think he would be more suited to the RSA. Worry would be that he skips and goes to Aintree but will see. Was shame Dan wasnt there as think he would of not been able to hide his excitement and blabbed out the plan.

Plan is the Scilly Isles likely next at Sandown over 2 1/2m and then he'll get 2 entries at the fez (assuming BANC and Turners). Owner hopes he'll be a Gold Cup horse next season with the Betfair Chase an early target.

Unibet held at 40/1 Turners up until an hour ago but now cut into 25's.

[Benjy23]

Tried to give some indication based on the exchanges but he's not even in the Turners market on there, as far as I can see.

I'm not sure you can take that formline and improvement through The Changing Man too literally to be honest. And by that I mean you definitely shouldn't. But I'd expect Grey Dawning to still be very competitive in the RSA. Good contender for second behind SAF.

[That Horse]

Katchit didn’t do too bad as a 5yo!

That was my first ever win betting at Cheltenham. The mug that I was back then, I wouldn't have had a clue that he'd ran the previous year!

[TigerRolllllll]

Tried to give some indication based on the exchanges but he's not even in the Turners market on there, as far as I can see.

I'm not sure you can take that formline and improvement through The Changing Man too literally to be honest. And by that I mean you definitely shouldn't. But I'd expect Grey Dawning to still be very competitive in the RSA. Good contender for second behind SAF.

He should def go BANC….,but I could see one or two switching to Turners as only GW to beat who could beat himself

[robith]

Just find it hard to fancy an ex-triumph horse running as a 5 year old at the festival. Apple's Jade the only one I can think of that won the following year.

I am slightly hypocritical by the way, having backed Gala Marceau for the mare's

Iirc it's especially pronounced for novice chasers though as they get early season weight allowances they don't get at the spring festivals- so their early chase form isn't always the true tale

[TigerRolllllll]

Also worth noting only bad run from BD was at Chelt

Expect he will win easily today & go v short…,so those with books might want cover …,,but struggle to see him running 160+ needed to win an Arkle or Turners

Imagine also one to keep eye on ..,,GE doesn’t have much for novice chases & this could be his Arkle/Turners hope with FAF?

[Lobos]

Tried to give some indication based on the exchanges but he's not even in the Turners market on there, as far as I can see.

I'm not sure you can take that formline and improvement through The Changing Man too literally to be honest. And by that I mean you definitely shouldn't. But I'd expect Grey Dawning to still be very competitive in the RSA. Good contender for second behind SAF.

He was cut to 16/1 by B365 after yesterday's race and into 7/1 NRMB with Hills. 40/1 with Unibet was just ridiculous. Think their odds compiler must have woke up this morning and shat himself.

Not sure they'll want to take on SAF again in the BANC especially if it comes up Soft. If he wins the Scilly Isles then I'd expect his Turners odds to crash in.