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Originally posted by Runragged View Post
Well I had a different take on it, confirmed when talking to a mate straight after the race. I thought he was keen and his jumping was very careful, not exactly fluent. Good to see him out and get round and we already know he has an engine. Like FF said though it could come down to what he actually has to beat. A sufficiently clear round may be enough come the race. Obviously first time up as well with an interrupted prep to get here so improvement to come as well you would expect.
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Originally posted by charlie View Post
Careful and not fluent? Each to their own and all that but thats a ridiculous take IMO. Wings his fences, jumps straight as a die, wastes no time in the air. It was a superb debut with accurate and neat jumping, shortened up when he had to (which is perhaps what you mean by careful).
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Originally posted by Quevega View Post
But he confirmed it with his mate
The expectations some people have for chase debutants is just way too high. MN was jumping fences for the first time in public and if you polled racing fans I'd say 99% would say he passed with flying colours.
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Originally posted by charlie View Post
Careful and not fluent? Each to their own and all that but thats a ridiculous take IMO. Wings his fences, jumps straight as a die, wastes no time in the air. It was a superb debut with accurate and neat jumping, shortened up when he had to (which is perhaps what you mean by careful).
I referred to "my mate" just to suggest we both thought we saw the same thing in initial impression of the run. I have better things to do with my time then come on the internet and bullshit or invent things to back up my opinion. I gave my opinion on what I saw, and now I am prepared to correct it with the benefit of watching the replay a few times.
Anyone that took the chance on him taking to chasing are sitting on some very healthy vouchers anyway.
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Originally posted by Runragged View Post
Ok, I've watched him a few times since and happy to admit that his jumping was a lot better than initial first impression. I can't say I was as blown away like I was with Gaellic Warrior or Il Est Francais which is where I would use some of the superlatives that you used. However, on a chase debut with the engine he has then getting from A to B then he will clearly take a lot of beating in the Arkle.
I referred to "my mate" just to suggest we both thought we saw the same thing in initial impression of the run. I have better things to do with my time then come on the internet and bullshit or invent things to back up my opinion. I gave my opinion on what I saw, and now I am prepared to correct it with the benefit of watching the replay a few times.
Anyone that took the chance on him taking to chasing are sitting on some very healthy vouchers anyway.
It just made me laugh reading it. Not sure why.
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….P Mullins re GW;
Mullins said: “That was super and he settled away going his own gallop. I was trying to get him to pop early on, but he wasn’t too sure of that so I let him jump. He loves the ground, won as he liked and jumped well once he got into a rhythm.
“He has been beaten twice at Cheltenham and it doesn’t really suit him as he jumps good and right. That said the Turners Chase is on the New course (at Cheltenham) which is slightly less tight than the Old course.
“He is most definitely a different horse going right-handed, but Cheltenham is Cheltenham. I’m not sure what Willie has in mind for him and I think the way he jumps, maybe two and a half miles on soft ground is his best trip.”
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Struggling to back a horse that jumps right like that in a race, unless the Turners turns out to be average/weak.
Evens this far out isnt for me
He's a Yorkhill, hugely talented but has his quirks. Not sure I want to lay GW as he could be 5-10lbs better than the field, it could be a case of playing the w/o market or just leaving the race alone
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