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2023 Novice Chasers

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  • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

    Exactly as I see it. I'll not back him Arkle now but will go in on Turners.
    5/1 nrmb for both races.
    If I wanted to back him I would do both and hope he ends up in Turners.

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    • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

      5/1 nrmb for both races.
      If I wanted to back him I would do both and hope he ends up in Turners.
      No point backing AI in Arkle if you don't think he'll win it though ??

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      • It's 14th march 2023, Appreciate it has just won the arkle.
        Some Fat jockey members still insist he's most likely to step up to the turners

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        • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

          5/1 nrmb for both races.
          If I wanted to back him I would do both and hope he ends up in Turners.
          The 'issue' with the NRNB Turners price, is he could run 2m at the DRf and lose, and go Turners....

          Whereas, if he loses at 2m at the DRF, he definitely wouldn't go Arkle would he?



          Arkle NRNB is either no run, or goes off shorter..... Turners is slightly riskier....



          The 10/1 with cashout for Turners is still tempting as an alternative IMO

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          • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

            The 'issue' with the NRNB Turners price, is he could run 2m at the DRf and lose, and go Turners....

            Whereas, if he loses at 2m at the DRF, he definitely wouldn't go Arkle would he?



            Arkle NRNB is either no run, or goes off shorter..... Turners is slightly riskier....



            The 10/1 with cashout for Turners is still tempting as an alternative IMO
            It's a really tight call.
            If they all run in Dublin, his 2 milers - and he comes a length or 2 second to one of his others ?
            Where's he go then ?
            And what's his price ?
            I think this is most likely to happen. So it'll be touch and go as to which race he takes his chances in.
            And will also depend on how strong Willie looks or doesn't look in the Turners after Dublin.
            Lot of plates spinning I reckon.
            5-1 ain't bad though if you really like him.

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            • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

              It's a really tight call.
              If they all run in Dublin, his 2 milers - and he comes a length or 2 second to one of his others ?
              Where's he go then ?
              And what's his price ?
              I think this is most likely to happen. So it'll be touch and go as to which race he takes his chances in.
              And will also depend on how strong Willie looks or doesn't look in the Turners after Dublin.
              Lot of plates spinning I reckon.
              5-1 ain't bad though if you really like him.
              Who does paul townend ride @ drf in your opinion?

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              • Originally posted by AaronLad View Post

                Who does paul townend ride @ drf in your opinion?
                If all three went.

                Paul - AI
                Jacob - El Fab
                Danny Mullins - DD

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                • Originally posted by AaronLad View Post

                  Who does paul townend ride @ drf in your opinion?
                  Assuming they all run
                  Appreciate It.
                  He usually goes for the least risky one.
                  But he'll not be sure, that's for sure, to be sure.

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                  • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                    No point backing AI in Arkle if you don't think he'll win it though ??
                    It would be because I like the horse and want to be on him just in case he does win the race I don’t think he will

                    I think that makes sense!!

                    But to be honest, and it’s difficult to be too confident I should add, I do think the Turners gives him best chance of winning.

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                    • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                      The 'issue' with the NRNB Turners price, is he could run 2m at the DRf and lose, and go Turners....

                      Whereas, if he loses at 2m at the DRF, he definitely wouldn't go Arkle would he?



                      Arkle NRNB is either no run, or goes off shorter..... Turners is slightly riskier....



                      The 10/1 with cashout for Turners is still tempting as an alternative IMO
                      Don't think this is as cut and dried.

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                      • Originally posted by AaronLad View Post
                        It's 14th march 2023, Appreciate it has just won the arkle.
                        Some Fat jockey members still insist he's most likely to step up to the turners
                        Haha!! I think AI would be suitable for the Arkle or Turners to be honest, he's not like a DD who you'd have in the boom or bust category over 2m.

                        Speaking of DD and Jonbon for that matter, do the 'he'd (Appreciate It) be better suited to the Turners' lot acknowledge that a furious pace in the Arkle, set by the same two who went off like lunatics in the Supreme, would suit a horse like Appreciate It down to the ground?

                        Quotes from Willie wont tell us much will they?



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                        • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                          Assuming they all run
                          Appreciate It.
                          He usually goes for the least risky one.
                          But he'll not be sure, that's for sure, to be sure.
                          least risky = who he thinks is best?
                          So Appreciate it will have the advantage of having the best jockey on him too?

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                          • Originally posted by AaronLad View Post

                            least risky = who he thinks is best?
                            So Appreciate it will have the advantage of having the best jockey on him too?
                            It's a matter of opinion on jockey ability.
                            If he's not sure on who's best, then he will go for the most proven, he usually does, and I think that will happen in this case.

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                            • Willie still has a lot of cards to play

                              classic getaway
                              minella cocooner
                              james du berlais

                              total embarrassment of riches for Willie
                              imagine what does he do with them next year given army he has in open company already
                              and with uncertainty over sir gerhard

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                              • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                                It's a really tight call.
                                If they all run in Dublin, his 2 milers - and he comes a length or 2 second to one of his others ?
                                Where's he go then ?
                                And what's his price ?
                                I think this is most likely to happen. So it'll be touch and go as to which race he takes his chances in.
                                And will also depend on how strong Willie looks or doesn't look in the Turners after Dublin.
                                Lot of plates spinning I reckon.
                                5-1 ain't bad though if you really like him.
                                I would be convinced that if Apprecaite It gets beat at 2m, even if it's close, he'd step up.

                                Whichever beat him, Paul would be on in the Arkle?

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