General Chat

[Kevloaf]

Think 'start' is an interesting choice of word. Without reading the full quotes. Could be reading into it too much thought

You can't be serious?

[Kevloaf]

I can't imagine they would start over hurdles and then switch to fences mid season, but i did think the same thing. It'd be a strange move if they did

Amazing scenes.

We need some more things to discuss if this is crossing your mind

[Kevloaf]

It's a weird way of him to say it. Why not say he'll stay (or run) over hurdles when ready. Just don't use the word start. That's all

Fact To File hasn't had a run over hurdles yet

So "start over hurdles" means literally what he's saying?

I don't understand how that could be misunderstood

[Lobos]

IEP

While the chances of Constitution Hill going chasing in the future appear slim, Impaire Et Passe is expected to switch disciplines next term.
Bromley added: “He’s so lightly raced that another season hurdling will hopefully toughen him up and then we can go chasing next season.

“He is the stamp of a chaser so he is exciting for that job, but we’ll see how high he can go over hurdles first.”

[Benjy23]

Fact To File hasn't had a run over hurdles yet

So "start over hurdles" means literally what he's saying?

I don't understand how that could be misunderstood

It's a skill.

They've previously said he might go chasing this season. And now they've used the words 'start over hurdles'. It's definitely open to interpretation like. And I think possibly deliberately not committing to it.

And as per FM, there's plenty of other options of wording that make the plan sound clearer.

The only way he switches mid season is probably if not good enough over hurdles though, which makes the whole discussion a bit irrelevant anyway.

Although I should probably just read what else was actually said as I've still not bothered

[Exar Essay]

IEP

While the chances of Constitution Hill going chasing in the future appear slim, Impaire Et Passe is expected to switch disciplines next term.
Bromley added: “He’s so lightly raced that another season hurdling will hopefully toughen him up and then we can go chasing next season.

“He is the stamp of a chaser so he is exciting for that job, but we’ll see how high he can go over hurdles first.”

It’s not even this season yet, I know, but Mullins novice chasers next season could be extraordinary.

[nortonscoin200]

Fact To File hasn't had a run over hurdles yet

So "start over hurdles" means literally what he's saying?

I don't understand how that could be misunderstood

….and the bottom line is: we now know who wins the Bartlett

[Lobos]

….and the bottom line is: we now know who wins the Bartlett

Yes, another big outsider not yet mentioned on this Forum as per every year with the Bartlett race. Graveyard of a race for AP punters.

[archie]

Kevloaf the Fatjockey website certificate has expired.

Chrome reckons it might be a dodgy site because some people are recommending silly prices for Vauban in the Melbourne Cup. May be a bookies' scam.

[Lobos]

Chrome reckons it might be a dodgy site because some people are recommending silly prices for Vauban in the Melbourne Cup. May be a bookies' scam.

Bugger.....you've got me

[Lobos]

In fairness though, 10's and 9's look pretty good now.

[ComplyOrDie]

I was very taken with Salvador Ziggy yesterday.

Travelling that well off 150 for a novice, against plenty more experienced rivals or rivals he had to give lumps of weight to, was very good, to my eye.

I'm really struggling to see what Willie will have at that level and the only two I can come up with are Champ Kiely (who I personally think will take the Gaillard Du Mesnil route of the Brown Advisory before he is even considered for a NH Chase) or Minella Cocooner, whom we are still waiting on an update for.

8/1 for Salvador Ziggy still, at this stage, after seeing him over fences 4 times, including in a competitive enough handicap, on a path trajectory that his trainer has used plenty, is an E/W gift, IMO.

[HoldenTheReins]

I was very taken with Salvador Ziggy yesterday.

Travelling that well off 150 for a novice, against plenty more experienced rivals or rivals he had to give lumps of weight to, was very good, to my eye.

I'm really struggling to see what Willie will have at that level and the only two I can come up with are Champ Kiely (who I personally think will take the Gaillard Du Mesnil route of the Brown Advisory before he is even considered for a NH Chase) or Minella Cocooner, whom we are still waiting on an update for.

8/1 for Salvador Ziggy still, at this stage, after seeing him over fences 4 times, including in a competitive enough handicap, on a path trajectory that his trainer has used plenty, is an E/W gift, IMO.

I see Minella Cocooner as a non stayer and remember Willie saying the same. So I'm thinking more turners if all okay following his injury of course.

[ComplyOrDie]

I see Minella Cocooner as a non stayer and remember Willie saying the same. So I'm thinking more turners if all okay following his injury of course.

I rarely like to disagree with the genius of Willie Mullins, but MC is bred to be a stayer, and if anything I think his performances as a novice hurdler have him outpaced more than outstayed, but that's just my view. Appreciate we will all have differing ones.

[Kautostar]

I rarely like to disagree with the genius of Willie Mullins, but MC is bred to be a stayer, and if anything I think his performances as a novice hurdler have him outpaced more than outstayed, but that's just my view. Appreciate we will all have differing ones.

I’m finding it really difficult to find the likely Mullins runner in the NH chase this year. I like minella cocooner for it but we need an update on his wellbeing before backing him.
He has so many stayers to juggle it’s almost impossible to call at this stage. Any of these could be his runner, some will be targeted at the banc or turners.

- minella cocooner
- champ kiely
- embassy gardens
- the nice guy
- Nick rockett
- quais de paris