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  • I have long suggested that IEP would be willies champion hurdle horse. Was informed following Cheltenham. I wouldn’t post any disinformation or tuck anyone away, but I can’t feel that it’s just fallen on deaf ears. Very difficult to dissuade the turners backers on this forum that there’s another viable option. We are we’re we are. I feel a lot of willies post race comments have been a little impetuous and not thought through. But people pick up a phrase they like and count it as gospel. It’s the magic of antepost betting. We don’t always get it right, but often the answer is staring us in the face.

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    • Can equally apply his post race comments to Gaelic warrior. Will he really go stayers hurdle when Willie has the first two in the punchestown stayers hurdle, no real strong opposition and he has no proper BANC horse. Lost twice over hurdles at last two festivals. Lose for a third time? No, over a fence and see if he fulfills his potential

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      • Originally posted by Guinness Village View Post
        Can equally apply his post race comments to Gaelic warrior. Will he really go stayers hurdle when Willie has the first two in the punchestown stayers hurdle, no real strong opposition and he has no proper BANC horse. Lost twice over hurdles at last two festivals. Lose for a third time? No, over a fence and see if he fulfills his potential
        That one may be cleared up with the OJA publication shortly.

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        • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
          I've not backed State Man (6/1) and have Impaire Et Passe (6/1)

          6/1 this far out (whilst I agree is a good each way bet) isn't a good each way ante post bet in September IMO
          Not convinced 6/1 each way is ever a great bet, handy to include in multiples where three of them makes a 19/2 treble so the better bet is the 'to be placed' which I'm sure will be around even money mark but, as we know, this is an account killing market.

          If anyone is a fan of IEP and considering backing him now I think you're effectively backing a Constitution Hill injury.
          I would suggest wait until nearer the time when the fav is 1/5 and IEP is a very similar price to what he is now, get all the NRNB protection plus all the extra places on your side...

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          • All welcome re the IEP stuff, they dont give too much away but when they do its always been bang on the money. Good luck all for the season ahead

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            • Originally posted by billymag View Post
              All welcome re the IEP stuff, they dont give too much away but when they do its always been bang on the money. Good luck all for the season ahead
              Yeah super job matey. Thank you.

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              • If Ziggy wins today would NHC backers be more or less confident in the bet?

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                • Originally posted by HesTheOne View Post
                  If Ziggy wins today would NHC backers be more or less confident in the bet?
                  I’d me more confident they think he’s a proper grade 1 horse and go down the browns route. A top 3 finish would do nicely

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                  • Originally posted by HesTheOne View Post
                    If Ziggy wins today would NHC backers be more or less confident in the bet?
                    Winning off 150 would have me believing they would think he's a G1 Novice, so not ideal, however, the way he's been campaigned is typical of an Elliott NH Chase horse.

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                    • Post race comments may dictate a specific target for Salvador Ziggy.
                      Or just the fact of where he goes next and importantly when he's likely to race next.
                      I'd say if he's going to be looked to be put away post race (like last year and like his past NHC winners), then it won't be for the grade 1.

                      Plus whilst i'm not sure Willie Mullins has necessarily the level of staying novice chasers as he has the past couple of seasons,
                      it's almost certain he'll still be able to call upon a 150+ horse in the NHC.
                      Gordon will know he may well need a mid 150 horse if he wants to win the race.

                      So i'm in no way thinking a win today particularly harms his prospects of going to the NHC.
                      I'd see it as a positive.

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                      • …plenty of ‘win today’ offers for the 4.25 at Listowel.

                        Salvador Ziggy & NHC 40-1; & a/r 33-1

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                        • I've had a bit of the Gevrey & GN @ 100/1. Love the hurdles prep from Gordon with Bryan Hayes on board too.

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                          • Originally posted by HesTheOne View Post
                            If Ziggy wins today would NHC backers be more or less confident in the bet?
                            Depends on what else he has for the race and who his best Novice chaser is.

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                            • Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post
                              I've had a bit of the Gevrey & GN @ 100/1. Love the hurdles prep from Gordon with Bryan Hayes on board too.
                              125 Gevrey with sky

                              Ziggy the Kerry National and BANC 66s

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                              • Happy with that from Ziggy, another great round of jumping.

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