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2024 Novice Chasers

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  • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

    I’m pretty much starting from scratch
    Only bets I had were Djelo and Blood Destiny, nrnb thank god!!
    Djelo won’t run not quick enough and BD might but has to show a lot more than last time for me to be excited.
    Im actually now looking at the British contenders a bit more seriously now.
    So are the punters. JPR backed today

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    • Originally posted by Dandrew99 View Post

      I haven't seen the actual quote from him, but Lydia on Road To Cheltenham said "I felt like Mark Walsh was leaning Brown Advisory, in terms of what would suit the horse best"
      I’d give that as much credence as i would if Troy deeney or Donald trump had said it.

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      • Originally posted by Rooster Booster View Post

        I’d give that as much credence as i would if Troy deeney or Donald trump had said it.


        Just passing along the quote... People can make of it what they will ​​​​​​

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        • Originally posted by Dandrew99 View Post



          Just passing along the quote... People can make of it what they will ​​​​​​
          Yes I wasn’t shooting the messenger. I didn’t mean it to come across that way

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          • Originally posted by Rooster Booster View Post

            Yes I wasn’t shooting the messenger. I didn’t mean it to come across that way
            Wasn't taken that way mate, all good

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            • I reckon that Willie will get Gaelic right and run him in the turners. Just backed 8/1 coral antepost.
              probably nuts

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              • Looking objectively at the form (i.e. not on what they see at home, other owner's input), Willie should split them:

                Arkle: Il Etait Temps, Blood Destiny, Hunters Yarn
                IET won the key Arkle trial so goes; BD and HY looks speedsters over 2m - I don't think either are good enough but I'd argue they've both earned their chance in an open year.

                Turners: Facile Vega, Gaelic Warrior
                FV is clearly a blindspot to not TRY over further. I can't remember another situation where a horse of his has continuously been called his best at the shortest distance after losing over it 3 times. Stepping him up could unleash further improvement and I'm not counting GW out of this either. He was beaten before his jumping was an issue at Leopardstown. He's obviously better right handed and should go for the Fairyhouse 2.5miler at Easter, but the race is weak enough that he could get away with it at Cheltenham this year.

                RSA: Fact To File, Grangeclare West
                The speed of FTF's jumping may have been exaggerated versus GW at weekend but I still think he's a fairly slow jumper over the shorter distances. If the Turners was 2m5f I'd run him in that. I'm considerably less sure over 2m3f. GCW won the main trial at Xmas. If he's OK he should go RSA.

                NH Chase: Embassy Gardens, Nick Rockett
                They seem to love EG for this and he's looked good last two runs. NR has always been spoken of as a Grade 2 horse or just below top tier so it strikes me as an obvious race to target for him.

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                • Never easy to play WillieBingo , !! . Any Chance Gaelic goes up to 3m for the Browns ??.,
                  Definitely not going to run in the Same race as F.T.F anyhow . ....I.M.O.

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                  • Originally posted by BigChaang View Post
                    Never easy to play WillieBingo , !! . Any Chance Gaelic goes up to 3m for the Browns ??.,
                    Definitely not going to run in the Same race as F.T.F anyhow . ....I.M.O.
                    I always think best is to cover options at long prices

                    I don’t think do, but did take some longer prices on exchanges in case

                    I’m not sure GW will go to Chelt & even less fire he can win there..,,but happy to play bingo
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                    • Originally posted by TigerRolllllll View Post

                      I always think best is to cover options at long prices

                      I don’t think do, but did take some longer prices on exchanges in case

                      I’m not sure GW will go to Chelt & even less fire he can win there..,,but happy to play bingo
                      Yes , no harm in that ., I did G.W for the brown's and the turners originally , but cashed the turners , when willie said stayers ...
                      Like you , think G.W may skip cheltenham now . ??.

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                      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                        If I were Willie who would I rather take on.........SAF, Grangeclare West, Montys Star and Grey Dawning in the BANC or Ginnys Destiny , Facile Vega?? ....... anyone else??? In the Turners?

                        No brainer when you look at it that way.
                        I agree with this FTF would be a very short fav in the turners looking at the likely runners. WM did seem keen to keep facile vega at 2 miles for Cheltenham post race.
                        Last edited by FredFlintstone; 6 February 2024, 09:51 AM.

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                        • Originally posted by FredFlintstone View Post

                          I agree with this FTF would be a very short fav in the turners looking at the likely runners. WM did seem keen to keep facile vega at 2 miles for Cheltenham post race.
                          Agree. Looking through the latest betting for the Turners it could be a very, very small field indeed.

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                          • Originally posted by Odin View Post
                            Looking objectively at the form (i.e. not on what they see at home, other owner's input), Willie should split them:

                            Arkle: Il Etait Temps, Blood Destiny, Hunters Yarn
                            IET won the key Arkle trial so goes; BD and HY looks speedsters over 2m - I don't think either are good enough but I'd argue they've both earned their chance in an open year.

                            Turners: Facile Vega, Gaelic Warrior
                            FV is clearly a blindspot to not TRY over further. I can't remember another situation where a horse of his has continuously been called his best at the shortest distance after losing over it 3 times. Stepping him up could unleash further improvement and I'm not counting GW out of this either. He was beaten before his jumping was an issue at Leopardstown. He's obviously better right handed and should go for the Fairyhouse 2.5miler at Easter, but the race is weak enough that he could get away with it at Cheltenham this year.

                            RSA: Fact To File, Grangeclare West
                            The speed of FTF's jumping may have been exaggerated versus GW at weekend but I still think he's a fairly slow jumper over the shorter distances. If the Turners was 2m5f I'd run him in that. I'm considerably less sure over 2m3f. GCW won the main trial at Xmas. If he's OK he should go RSA.

                            NH Chase: Embassy Gardens, Nick Rockett
                            They seem to love EG for this and he's looked good last two runs. NR has always been spoken of as a Grade 2 horse or just below top tier so it strikes me as an obvious race to target for him.
                            They seem to love EG for the NH Chase as much as they love FV for the Arkle


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                            • GW did work this morning…Rein it in podcast in stable today
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                              • Originally posted by TigerRolllllll View Post
                                GW did work this morning…Rein it in podcast in stable today
                                Also said no excuses and no issues have came to light since

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