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2024 Novice Chasers

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  • Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post

    He's 5/1 NRNB. That's an EW price. My list of likely runners is as follows:
    • Fact To File (or potentially Facile Vega if FTF steps up in trip)
    • Ginny's Destiny
    • Gaelic Warrior
    • Iroko (? - back from injury)
    • American Mike (? -maybe handicap)
    • Djelo
    • Marble Sands (handicap mark surely blown)
    I think an EW price about Gaelic (with money back if he doesn't turn up) in that market is very fair. I certainly don't think it's bonkers.
    Agree with this, although I'd much rather be spending my money on Il Est Francais at 5/2 NRNB than Gaelic ew NRNB

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    • Will have happened a few times in the NHC

      But struggling to remember any recent arkle/turner's/banc winners that didnt go there on the back of a win

      I'm sure I'm probably missing one or two

      Edit topofthegame is one I just thought of, got beat in the kauto star
      Last edited by FinalFurlong91; 7 February 2024, 10:29 AM.

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      • Agree with FF that Paul really should have pulled G Warrior up. The horse was Clearly done some way out but he must have been thinking prize money which could turn out a big mistake. IMO G Warrior will not make the trip now.

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        • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

          Next season now I'd say. Everything this season has been geared towards Arkle so that's where he'll go.
          What do u think Willie thinks his first string Arkle is? FV wasn’t far back at DRF….,I’m so not sure how he is likely to line up yet….but then maybe he isn’t either
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          • Originally posted by Odin View Post

            Since 2008 across all races, 909 bets, 39 won, +15.9 laying at BFSP.
            Record is fairly similar across handicaps/non-handicaps.

            Interestingly big profit on backing these horses last year +33.83 (only -1.78 laying)
            And in 2022 you made profit backing (+4.73) and laying these horses (+0.5)!
            elite skills

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            • Originally posted by TigerRolllllll View Post

              What do u think Willie thinks his first string Arkle is? FV wasn’t far back at DRF….,I’m so not sure how he is likely to line up yet….but then maybe he isn’t either
              Not sure he's got a first string this year. Three hopefuls. Looks a very poor Arkle.

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              • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post
                Will have happened a few times in the NHC

                But struggling to remember any recent arkle/turner's/banc winners that didnt go there on the back of a win

                I'm sure I'm probably missing one or two

                Edit topofthegame is one I just thought of, got beat in the kauto star
                Gaillard Du Mesnil
                Ravenhill, Samcro, Champ
                Le Breuil, Topofthegame
                Rathvinden, Presenting Percy
                Tiger Roll

                Bolded were favourites on their last runs

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                • Originally posted by robith View Post

                  elite skills
                  horseracebase.com is excellent for stuff like that I've gotta say

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                  • Originally posted by Odin View Post

                    Gaillard Du Mesnil
                    Ravenhill, Samcro, Champ
                    Le Breuil, Topofthegame
                    Rathvinden, Presenting Percy
                    Tiger Roll

                    Bolded were favourites on their last runs
                    The man with the knowledge. Unreal stuff.

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                    • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                      Not sure he's got a first string this year. Three hopefuls. Looks a very poor Arkle.
                      Yes for one year only it’s being renamed the Height O Fashion

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                      • Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post

                        He's 5/1 NRNB. That's an EW price. My list of likely runners is as follows:
                        • Fact To File (or potentially Facile Vega if FTF steps up in trip)
                        • Ginny's Destiny
                        • Gaelic Warrior
                        • Iroko (? - back from injury)
                        • American Mike (? -maybe handicap)
                        • Djelo
                        • Marble Sands (handicap mark surely blown)
                        I think an EW price about Gaelic (with money back if he doesn't turn up) in that market is very fair. I certainly don't think it's bonkers.
                        I thought we were talking about him winning?
                        I hadn’t thought of e/w
                        Not really my thing e/w at that price but i understand some like that.
                        End of the day, we all know his form and we can all make our minds up.
                        I’m happy with my view.

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                        • Originally posted by Dandrew99 View Post
                          Not particularly definitive but definitely makes me think Facile Vega is going Turners...

                          https://twitter.com/ReinItInHR/statu...Fe0Qbxfyw&s=19
                          This is the only logical decision you've gotta say.

                          Il Etait Temps now a clear number one for Mullins for the Arkle I'd argue

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                          • Originally posted by Odin View Post

                            Gaillard Du Mesnil
                            Ravenhill, Samcro, Champ
                            Le Breuil, Topofthegame
                            Rathvinden, Presenting Percy
                            Tiger Roll

                            Bolded were favourites on their last runs
                            Nice work

                            5 in the NHC, 3 in the browns, 1 in the turners and 0 in the arkle then

                            Positive for stay away fay

                            Percy also got beat in open company before winning the race

                            Champ fell when going to bolt in so didnt really flop

                            Less so for those in the shorter races

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                            • A very left field poke here.

                              with the head of the Arkle a little confusing it may pay to look for a long odds ew shot.
                              right at the bottom of the market is Senecia who is 150/1 NRNB with B365.

                              his form on ground better than soft ties in very closely with Hercule de Seuil (beaten a neck and just over a length).
                              HdS beat Hunters Yarn last whos 6/1 here.

                              form of late on soft/heavy is rubbish (hence 150/1).

                              On usual Tuesday ground and a small field 150/1 could look very tasty, and could trade out for a guaranteed profit.

                              he’s entered in the 10up at Navan and any improvement might see his price tumble.
                              At any rate feels like a shot to nothing.

                              he’s also 1000/1 on BFEx for those brave enough.

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                              • Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post

                                He was one I was wondering about, but thought he stayed on very well against Nickle Back who was on some day out and they just gave too much rope too. Has anything been said about his target?
                                Don’t think anything’s been said, but watching his last run I would be surprised if he went Arkle.
                                He looked like he needed every inch of that and maybe more to my eyes.

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