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  • Originally posted by TCH29 View Post
    I think Brewin’ is being dismissed here. Form reads well and clock time was exceptional on his debut.
    Think there is plenty of love for Brewin on here myself! Im a big fan.

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    • Originally posted by Hamptonfox View Post
      Completely agree that 25/1 Melon for the Arkle is way too big, and I have added him too. I don’t think he will improve for a trip, though We know that the trainer plans to try it. His run vs Fakir D to me is the best 2M Novice form so I want to have both of them in the book.
      The British 2M Novice Chase runners, with the exception of Nube Negra, leave me cold.
      Yes indeed. And Willie can often say something straight after a race then change his mind. Its quite possible that Fakir will be fav for this race soon... and with the weight pull at Cheltenham and how well Melon normally goes there, I'd fancy him to have a good chance of turning the tables and is three times the price.
      Last edited by Can't Catch Me; 20 November 2019, 03:21 PM.

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      • Takes a few days for it to sink in for some don't it ?

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        • Melon is a very fair price, and given his festival antics in previous seasons is certainly a solid e/way bet. I have some free bets to use this weekend and can see him being one of them, despite what WPM has said.

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          • Originally posted by TCH29 View Post
            I think Brewin’ is being dismissed here. Form reads well and clock time was exceptional on his debut.
            TCH, I’ve got Brewinupastorm for the JLT rather than the Arkle, but take your point, he is doing well so far, with a Graded race next up, no doubt, to reveal more about his position in the pecking order and trip.
            "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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            • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
              Melon is a very fair price, and given his festival antics in previous seasons is certainly a solid e/way bet. I have some free bets to use this weekend and can see him being one of them, despite what WPM has said.
              What a difference a couple of days makes.
              If you think the horse needed a trip the other day, you should stick to it. and stop faffing.

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              • Originally posted by quevega View Post
                What a difference a couple of days makes.
                If you think the horse needed a trip the other day, you should stick to it. and stop faffing.
                Christ you sound like my missus!

                I'll faff how I want, and FWIW I do think he needs a trip, which is why I backed him 'any race' instead of race specific bets (for cash), BUT he has become a price I feel represents value for a place should Willie change his mind, yet again!

                Free bets are no harm to my bank balance so don't you worry about me

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                • Originally posted by quevega View Post
                  Takes a few days for it to sink in for some don't it ?
                  It was Sizing John beating Empire of Dirt in the Irish Gold Cup that taught me this lesson.
                  I had EOD as my Gold Cup horse, and thought he ran well but was chinned by Sizing John in Ireland. Gutted when EOD was routed to the Ryanair, but then I saw the light, that if I liked EOD so much for the Gold Cup then why didn’t I like Sizing John in his place, as they had finished side by side last time out. Second thoughts won the day.
                  "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                  • Originally posted by Hamptonfox View Post
                    It was Sizing John beating Empire of Dirt in the Irish Gold Cup that taught me this lesson.
                    I had EOD as my Gold Cup horse, and thought he ran well but was chinned by Sizing John in Ireland. Gutted when EOD was routed to the Ryanair, but then I saw the light, that if I liked EOD so much for the Gold Cup then why didn’t I like Sizing John in his place, as they had finished side by side last time out.
                    Yep - exactly the same with me.
                    And a lovely watch that was seeing the 2 miler with class cruise in behind and then finish it in style.

                    Shame that connections don't see the same in Defi du Sueil this season, as I'm pretty sure he is a similar type.

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                    • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
                      Christ you sound like my missus!

                      I'll faff how I want, and FWIW I do think he needs a trip, which is why I backed him 'any race' instead of race specific bets (for cash), BUT he has become a price I feel represents value for a place should Willie change his mind, yet again!

                      Free bets are no harm to my bank balance so don't you worry about me

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                      • Put The Kettle On up to 142. With the 7lb allowance that is only a couple of pounds below Duc Des Genievres' mark when the tapes went up for the Arkle.

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                        • Breaken is entered on Sunday. Absolute nutjob last season, he'd make Great Field look sane but there's plenty of talent in the locker. Could be interesting if fences help him to settle.

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                          • Where is Breaken racing? I can’t find him on any race card?

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                            • Backed Tornado Flyer and Nube Negra both at 33s for this.

                              Looks a weak race. TF is going for the races that Willie sends his Arkle horse too which is a good sign and he has some talent that Willie can hopefully bring out of him. He’s got potential. Just a case of him showing it if and when. 33s is huge.

                              I’ve been impressed with Nube Negra more than any other in the market this season that’s jumped a fence. Thought he was excellent over his fences last time and his hurdling days show he has an engine. Again, 33s is very decent in my view in what looks a very weak race.

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                              • a few entered up at Kempton on Monday Thomas Darby, champagne platinum and precious cargo....

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