Arkle 2020

[Kevloaf]

Looks a weak race. TF is going for the races that Willie sends his Arkle horse too which is a good sign and he has some talent that Willie can hopefully bring out of him. He’s got potential. Just a case of him showing it if and when. 33s is huge.

You're welcome

[Big Chac]

This race really is waiting for a big performance but I can't see where this is coming from. Seen as this race seems to be short on quality does anyone fancy precious cargo, still 25/1.

I know hendo loves bigging up his horses but he was well backed for the aintree grade 1 although he didn't really get involved. This race probably won't take much winning atm, I'm considering taking a punt on him....

[charlie]

This race really is waiting for a big performance but I can't see where this is coming from. Seen as this race seems to be short on quality does anyone fancy precious cargo, still 25/1.

I know hendo loves bigging up his horses but he was well backed for the aintree grade 1 although he didn't really get involved. This race probably won't take much winning atm, I'm considering taking a punt on him....

It will come from Ireland

[lloydy]

Maybe from Felix Desjy. The latest I read,I think, was that he would be going chasing if they could get him out before Christmas. As low as 12-1 with PP, has there been a recent update?

[charlie]

Maybe from Felix Desjy. The latest I read,I think, was that he would be going chasing if they could get him out before Christmas. As low as 12-1 with PP, has there been a recent update?

I’d need to see him jump a fence before touching him at that sort of price. Erratic jumper

[ComplyOrDie]

Breaken is entered on Sunday. Absolute nutjob last season, he'd make Great Field look sane but there's plenty of talent in the locker. Could be interesting if fences help him to settle.

Good news, had written him off as hadn't seen a word on him, but he was one of my first 'any race' bets after the festival. There's some sort of hope at least.

[Kevloaf]

Maybe from Felix Desjy. The latest I read,I think, was that he would be going chasing if they could get him out before Christmas. As low as 12-1 with PP, has there been a recent update?

His forms a little bit better than I thought it was before I started this post so I've had to start again.

Best price 16s though isn't quite big enough for me because he's not been too effective at Cheltenham compared to some flatter tracks (obvious one being Aintree where he won his G1)


I would want to see him jump too, as that'd make a big difference because I'd want to KNOW he's going to be a better chaser than he was hurdler.

Probably will be, but I don't want to gamble on that or assume it, at 16/1.

[Bonjers]

Where is Breaken racing? I can’t find him on any race card?

2.10 at Navan.

[jack1092]

2.10 at Navan.

Along with other stablemates Cash Back + Royal Rendezvous. Mullin's tends to send a good one here. Leap of faith with either being as good as the previous runners he's had!

[ComplyOrDie]

Along with other stablemates Cash Back + Royal Rendezvous. Mullin's tends to send a good one here. Leap of faith with either being as good as the previous runners he's had!

Douvan started there, Un De Sceaux the week after at Thurles, I'm not sure it matters where they start, just which one ends up the best throughout the season. Did Melon also start in the race Footpad started in?

[jack1092]

Douvan started there, Un De Sceaux the week after at Thurles, I'm not sure it matters where they start, just which one ends up the best throughout the season. Did Melon also start in the race Footpad started in?

Well if a trainer tends to send his good one to a race over the years it's always interesting to see what he send there this year, no?

[ComplyOrDie]

Well if a trainer tends to send his good one to a race over the years it's always interesting to see what he send there this year, no?

Yeah, I wasn't having a dig, was just pointing out the previous ones have gone to different races, Footpad, Douvan, Un De Sceaux & Duc Des Genievres all started in different races I believe, so I don't know how much of a bearing it has on where they start, although I used to think it did a fair amount as always thought trainers were creatures of habit, but based on the four mentioned I guess not now.

I think it matters more which graded races they end up in prior to the festival, as opposed to their debuts, although even that is flawed as DDG didn't take up a graded race prior to the Arkle (was a crap Arkle though).

[jack1092]

Yeah, I wasn't having a dig, was just pointing out the previous ones have gone to different races, Footpad, Douvan, Un De Sceaux & Duc Des Genievres all started in different races I believe, so I don't know how much of a bearing it has on where they start, although I used to think it did a fair amount as always thought trainers were creatures of habit, but based on the four mentioned I guess not now.

I think it matters more which graded races they end up in prior to the festival, as opposed to their debuts.

That's true, i was more meaning a good one in general. Min, Douvan, Vautour + Al Boum Photo all starting here is interesting to me. Whether the 3 entered in it this year turn out as good as any of them i'd be questioning. I thought Breaken looked a rocket but very disappointing next time.

[ComplyOrDie]

That's true, i was more meaning a good one in general. Min, Douvan, Vautour + Al Boum Photo all starting here is interesting to me. Whether the 3 entered in it this year turn out as good as any of them i'd be questioning. I thought Breaken looked a rocket but very disappointing next time.

Yeah, fair point.

I always believed Breaken would be very good, so hope he lives up to my expectation of him. Still a big price @ 33/1. Has lengths to make up on Notebook over hurdles, but he was extremely lightly raced compared with him when they met, and still is. Same owner as Melon so they will be split up if he goes well over fences.

[Kevloaf]

Same owner as Melon so they will be split up if he goes well over fences.

Probably.

Wouldb't be enough evidence of that with this owner yet I wouldn't have thought?


Breaken Arkle / Melon JLT e/w doubles at the ready