Champion Hurdle 2020

[ComplyOrDie]

I see Buveur D'air has jack all to beat in the Fighting Fifth. Bit embarrassing for a G1 tbh.

[Middle_Of_March]

I see Buveur D'air has jack all to beat in the Fighting Fifth. Bit embarrassing for a G1 tbh.

Especially when you consider how brilliant (on paper beforehand) last year’s race looked with Samcro v Buveur D’Air v Summerville Boy.

[archie]

The 2017 edition was really poor and pretty much comparable to this year.

[Scooby91]

I see Buveur D'air has jack all to beat in the Fighting Fifth. Bit embarrassing for a G1 tbh.

A bit harsh I feel, the 3rd from last years champion is in there with a run under his belt, where he returned better than ever when hammering grand sancy and itchy feet, he may not have a "sexy" trainer, but hes a very nice horse. People are backing the hendo trained fusil raffles for the champion who had life and death with grand sancy. Yet have no respect for a horse who hosed up against him.

[jack1092]

A bit harsh I feel, the 3rd from last years champion is in there with a run under his belt, where he returned better than ever when hammering grand sancy and itchy feet, he may not have a "sexy" trainer, but hes a very nice horse. People are backing the hendo trained fusil raffles for the champion who had life and death with grand sancy. Yet have no respect for a horse who hosed up against him.

Wouldn't be certain he was better than ever- suppose it was probably his best reappearance ever.

15.5ls in 3rd of 7, not sure it's that harsh to be uninspired by the race.

It's more an indicator of the 2m division in general.

For all everyone crabbed Elliot leaving Samcro in 2m hurdles last year, something to be commended in my book (for all it didn't work out). The division is bang average + not many are keeping their horses in it, rather go over fences.

[ComplyOrDie]

A bit harsh I feel, the 3rd from last years champion is in there with a run under his belt, where he returned better than ever when hammering grand sancy and itchy feet, he may not have a "sexy" trainer, but hes a very nice horse. People are backing the hendo trained fusil raffles for the champion who had life and death with grand sancy. Yet have no respect for a horse who hosed up against him.

I mean if you're taking the form literally then what about Beat The Judge, 2nd to Silver Streak, only 8 lengths behind off levels, but over 15 lengths behind Fusil Raffles getting 3lbs. Grand Sancy also had a run under his belt before taking on Fusil, not that I think Fusil will be winning any CH anytime soon either though. Grand Sancy was also giving Silver Streak 6lbs. I don't think any of the previously mentioned would get any closer than SS did last season to winning a CH myself.

It's a crap renewal, and I am now thankful Gordon and co didn't bottle last season, at least they had the balls to make it a good race.

[Scooby91]

I mean if you're taking the form literally then what about Beat The Judge, 2nd to Silver Streak, only 8 lengths behind off levels, but over 15 lengths behind Fusil Raffles getting 3lbs. Grand Sancy also had a run under his belt before taking on Fusil, not that I think Fusil will be winning any CH anytime soon either though. Grand Sancy was also giving Silver Streak 6lbs. I don't think any of the previously mentioned would get any closer than SS did last season to winning a CH myself.

It's a crap renewal, and I am now thankful Gordon and co didn't bottle last season, at least they had the balls to make it a good race.

Ok silver streak the champion 3rd is a crap horse. You know best.

[ComplyOrDie]

Ok silver streak the champion 3rd is a crap horse. You know best.

Bit childish.

Just my opinion! As per the case above.

FWIW I didn't say he was crap!

[Saxon Warrior]

It's a bit of a shocker at 5-Day Decs for a Group 1.

[jack1092]

Ok silver streak the champion 3rd is a crap horse. You know best.

Alright stroppy

[Scooby91]

Bit childish.

Just my opinion! As per the case above.

FWIW I didn't say he was crap!

Common sense applies, when silver streak is a progressive 6yo and a better 2m hurder than samcro and summerville boy, who were in last years renewal. Other than buveur d'air silver streak has shown the best 2 mile form on the uk and comes in race fit. Yet because hes not trained by hendo or Mullins, and doesn't have the hype of samcro, he's "crap" opposition.

[Scooby91]

Alright stroppy

I have an annoyance for horses not getting the credit because there not in the right colours, or with hendo/ mullins.
Its not a vintage CH , but a race fit silver streak is good opposition relative to what's about.

[ComplyOrDie]

Common sense applies, when silver streak is a progressive 6yo and a better 2m hurder than samcro and summerville boy, who were in last years renewal. Other than buveur d'air silver streak has shown the best 2 mile form on the uk and comes in race fit. Yet because hes not trained by hendo or Mullins, and doesn't have the hype of samcro, he's "crap" opposition.

And I wasn't the one who brought Silver Streak into the argument, you did, I said it was a crap renewal, and I stand by that.

Official ratings last season, 169, 160, 156, 152 & 150

This seasons race, 167, 154, 148, 146, 142, 139 & 127 - the only reason I see a 127 rated animal racing in it is because they can pick up some decent G1 prize money due to a lack of opposition

Maybe it's just a crap, early season race tbh, and we was spoilt last season

[jack1092]

I have an annoyance for horses not getting the credit because there not in the right colours, or with hendo/ mullins.
Its not a vintage CH , but a race fit silver streak is good opposition relative to what's about.

When you look at last year's Champion i suppose it's hard to see what people expected from the entries. Absolute car crash of a race. Ireland 4 of the 7 finishers.
It still is a crap race and the 2mile division is in tatters.

[Scooby91]

If you beat silver streak convincingly, your in the money in the champion itself.