Champion Hurdle 2020

[Scooby91]

PP have gone 14/1 Saldier its not looking good and they have shortened a few others!!!!

Oddschecker messing about again. Be careful.

It happens every day

[Anay Turge]

PP have gone 14/1 Saldier its not looking good and they have shortened a few others!!!!

Still 6/1 for me. I’d be gutted as this is currently my biggest return. However have been lucky so far this year, so bound to be hit by a few between now and March

[Salubrious Chin]

I cant see 14/1 on their site, only 6/1?

[ComplyOrDie]

Oddschecker messing about again. Be careful.

It happens every day

Yep, and always bloody PP it seems!

[Anay Turge]

I’m trying to seek a few positives - I’m sure Ruby was talking up Saldiers chances on this weekends ITV racing. That was only Saturday, surely he’d be one of the few people that were in the know?! Unless something has happened in the 48hours since then. Perhaps clutching, and since I only bet with Hills there’s sod all I can do about it either way!

[Birds Nest]

im glad scooby mentioned Supa, i went in on him after bd's race. I also wouldnt be suprised to see this champion hurdle turning out to be Melons most winnable race at the fest too, i wouldnt put it past willie to re route him.

[archie]

The entries closed last Wednesday.

[billymag]

The 14/1 was on oddschecker but on site says 6/1, id defo be hovering over the cashout button though lads the lack of an entry is screaming at me!!!

[Rhinestone_Cowboy]

I’v cashed for x2 my stake, I’m always super cautious in these situations can always reinvest the full amount at 6s for same payout if so inclined. Cashed BVD on Sat night for 30% loss. No doubt will get some wrong

[ComplyOrDie]

Before anything is confirmed, does anyone other than me think sometimes horses are pulled for reasons beyond injury, i.e. agreements between other owners or trainers, or just because the owner doesn't want to run it in a specific race but doesn't want the outcry of a horse not taking its chance so the story of 'out for the season' is created, etc....?

I'm pretty sceptical about word of a lot of owners/trainers, I don't believe many a lot of the time. It may be for another thread, but seeing as we seem to be on the verge of hearing some news regarding Saldier, I just thought I'd ask.

FWIW, I think the owner has every right to do what they like with their horses, they pay for them so it's tough, from a punter or fans perspective, but I wonder if they fear the backlash.

I don't think it really affects syndicates, as much due to the size of a group of owners it is really, but the individual owner would probably be affected a bit more.

[Quevega]

Before anything is confirmed, does anyone other than me think sometimes horses are pulled for reasons beyond injury, i.e. agreements between other owners or trainers, or just because the owner doesn't want to run it in a specific race but doesn't want the outcry of a horse not taking its chance so the story of 'out for the season' is created, etc....?

I'm pretty sceptical about word of a lot of owners/trainers, I don't believe many a lot of the time. It may be for another thread, but seeing as we seem to be on the verge of hearing some news regarding Saldier, I just thought I'd ask.

FWIW, I think the owner has every right to do what they like with their horses, they pay for them so it's tough, from a punter or fans perspective, but I wonder if they fear the backlash.

I don't think it really affects syndicates, as much due to the size of a group of owners it is really, but the individual owner would probably be affected a bit more.

I don't think they lie all the time, or much at all Cod.
But the constant requirement and thirst for information from media and punters means they often have to provide answers or quotes.

But they're not all very good at 'lawyer speak' so some are often a little more committal than ideal, and don't provide caveat after caveat, But an interview would be pretty tricky to listen too if they kept saying 'IF' all the time.
Obviously it's equally frustrating when we get the non committal answers.

Willie was criticised by some for saying Benie would definitely run at the weekend.
He obviously didn't feel the need to add 'as long as she's fit and well at declaration day she'll be declared'
He took it for granted that people would factor that in. Which I think is fair.

A worse example was Kim Bailey ruling Vinndication out of the festival earlier this year. Only to see it do some good work a day or two later and change his mind. Absolutely no need to rule it out in the first place, he could have just said it was doubtful.

And The O'Leary's constantly saying Apple's Jade will go for the mares. Bad form that.
And Elliott saying Envoi Allen would not run at the festival. Bad form that.

The skill is reading between the lines and asking the what if questions yourself. Which isn't easy.

[JackieMoon33]

As much as we all hate it, Willie, or any other trainer for that matter, does not have to consider the ante post punter in their decision making process. Their job is to do what is best for the horse, the owner and themselves. Anything that a trainer says should never be taken as gospel as they can always change strategy and it is totally their prerogative.

Hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

[Run4Home]

Cash out now suspended on B365 for Saldier

[ComplyOrDie]

Cash out now suspended on B365 for Saldier

But you can still back him....

[Lobos]

Gutted if he is. £40 @ 20/1. Bugger. Move on....