March ‘25 Yankee

[Durham Edition]

How about Kopek De Mee for the Arkle at 50's owner said they thought they had a good Arkle horse and plan was to go chasing before the injury so to have a race name checked meaning this could be the target.

[jrjr]

I think Wendigo is a good shout for the BANC. But I think Kitzbuhel at 33/1 is a smashing bet. He races like he wants further and jumps like a chaser. A half brother to Al Boum Photo too. He’s one I could see running very well at Aintree and getting cut heavily.

Kitzbuhel is a very promising horse for the BANC, WPM alluded to this after his last run. Paraphrasing but ‘love a step up in trip, no problem getting three miles, real potential as a novice chaser’.

However, as far as the Yankee goes he is only 33’s with Unibet and they’ll cut that in a heartbeat after one or two people back it. I’d be surprised if that price is still there at the end of the month. Would need to be considered at the more general price of 20’s (in my opinion).

[darlojim]

Inothewayurthinkin GC

F2F Ryanair

Lulamba Arkle

Kitzbuhel BANC

Actually think Romeo BANC 25s wouldn't be a bad call, could see Gordon stepping him up next season



There are some brutal prices about mind, look at the Mares Chase market fully 1 year out..

Brighterdaysahead 4/1
Dino 4/1
The big westerner 5/1
Only by Night 8/1
Spindleberry 12s

what on earth is that.

Jade/Kargese would probably interest me at the 25s, 20s but which one would go who knows. Think Kenny said Kargese could but she'd have to settle. Originally Jade was going this year prior to setbacks so tricky one to work out

[Exar Essay]

Inothewayurthinkin GC

F2F Ryanair

Lulamba Arkle

Kitzbuhel BANC

Actually think Romeo BANC 25s wouldn't be a bad call, could see Gordon stepping him up next season



There are some brutal prices about mind, look at the Mares Chase market fully 1 year out..

Brighterdaysahead 4/1
Dino 4/1
The big westerner 5/1
Only by Night 8/1
Spindleberry 12s

what on earth is that.

Jade/Kargese would probably interest me at the 25s, 20s but which one would go who knows. Think Kenny said Kargese could but she'd have to settle. Originally Jade was going this year prior to setbacks so tricky one to work out

Kenny said both could go. I’ve backed both. Essentially being on one at 10/1ish is fine and could be on both.

[Benjy23]

Majborough could be a Ryanair type for next year meaning Fact to File goes GC maybe... Even though JP has just won it.

[HoldenTheReins]

Kenny said both could go. I’ve backed both. Essentially being on one at 10/1ish is fine and could be on both.

Kargese is still too keen over 2m so wouldn't fancy her beyond 2m until she settles at least

[DenmanSacre]

I don't get involved this early but these stand out to me:

Kitzbuhel at 20s and 33s BANC

Majborough 10s Ryanair

Jasmin 16s Stayers

I think we'll go back to larger fields in a lot of the grade 1s after this years surprises so are we really getting value this far out when you consider the risks a year out?

[jrjr]

Impaire for the Ryanair at 33’s seems generous.

Could Kargese go Arkle - don’t recall WPM sending a mare there before though?

[Zachx02]

Can someone please explain the love for Lulamba in the Arkle? This year's triumph field was probably the worst in many years and he got beat by a horse having his first spin over hurdles.

Given the 5 year old record in the Arkle and no weight allowance, I'd much rather kopek for 2 pts at 5/1 than 1 Pt on lulamba at 12/1

[Eggs]

Can someone please explain the love for Lulamba in the Arkle? This year's triumph field was probably the worst in many years and he got beat by a horse having his first spin over hurdles.

Given the 5 year old record in the Arkle and no weight allowance, I'd much rather kopek for 2 pts at 5/1 than 1 Pt on lulamba at 12/1

….i suppose we’ll know more about the quality of that field next year but you’re right to remind about 5yo stat.

[Eggs]

….Unibet cut Kitzbuhel (BANC) to 20-1.

[EnvoiAlien]

….i suppose we’ll know more about the quality of that field next year but you’re right to remind about 5yo stat.

Have to say without all the errors the 5yo stat would've been shown up by Majborough, if Gino had ran it would've also been shown up, just my opinion of course.

[DenmanSacre]

Can someone please explain the love for Lulamba in the Arkle? This year's triumph field was probably the worst in many years and he got beat by a horse having his first spin over hurdles.

Given the 5 year old record in the Arkle and no weight allowance, I'd much rather kopek for 2 pts at 5/1 than 1 Pt on lulamba at 12/1

Why do you think it was the worst in years? Wasn't all the talk beforehand that EID had put up figures that would win most Triumphs over the last 10 years. The right horses in 2nd and 3rd, with the Townend pick in 4th. Just beat by an unraced one none of us knew anything about with regards to hurdling.

They won't be as good as last year's juveniles, but I'd put them up there with Lossiemouths year, better than Vaubans year and better than Quilixios year as well.

[darlojim]

Why do you think it was the worst in years? Wasn't all the talk beforehand that EID had put up figures that would win most Triumphs over the last 10 years. The right horses in 2nd and 3rd, with the Townend pick in 4th. Just beat by an unraced one none of us knew anything about with regards to hurdling.

They won't be as good as last year's juveniles, but I'd put them up there with Lossiemouths year, better than Vaubans year and better than Quilixios year as well.

They'll be took away by the guys in the white coats

[Zachx02]

Why do you think it was the worst in years? Wasn't all the talk beforehand that EID had put up figures that would win most Triumphs over the last 10 years. The right horses in 2nd and 3rd, with the Townend pick in 4th. Just beat by an unraced one none of us knew anything about with regards to hurdling.

They won't be as good as last year's juveniles, but I'd put them up there with Lossiemouths year, better than Vaubans year and better than Quilixios year as well.

I personally just don't think they're that good, figures might show them being good but in my opinion I was never blown away by EID throughout the season.

I'd probably put them in the same tier as the qulixios year personally but I can't see them doing much in open company bar the winner and the mare in 5th who I think will do a let's dance next year