2025 Mares Hurdle

[Lobos]

I hope so mate, but a decision has to be made now imo, whatever we think or hope.
Shes a shoe In for this imo, jade isn’t.

They'll go CH. Jade's not a shoe in but she's definitely the one to beat now and could go off very short.

[Carnage at Taunton]

He'll stick.

Superb news for the CH. What a race to savour now. Like the old days.

I hope so mate, but a decision has to be made now imo, whatever we think or hope.
Shes a shoe In for this imo, jade isn’t.

[Lobos]

BDA going Champion.

Sticking or twisting WM?

He'll stick.

Superb news for the CH. What a race to savour now. Like the old days.

[Carnage at Taunton]

BDA going Champion.

Sticking or twisting WM?

[Liammet]

Looks like Kargese going down the handicap route. Have we heard anything from the yard?

David Casey suggested this was a possibility in a preview with the owner having 2 other horses that could go Mares hurdle
Jade de Grugy and Gala Marceau
Also makes sense for her to go County as she is so keen she might not see out the extra distance

[Unexposed]

Looks like Kargese going down the handicap route. Have we heard anything from the yard?

[Kevloaf]

Not sure about everyone else but I'm just bored to death of the BDA/Lossiemouth will she won't she saga now.

Not long to go now at least

and then one of the races will be DEAD

or

They'll both be exciting

[Lobos]

Not sure about everyone else but I'm just bored to death of the BDA/Lossiemouth will she won't she saga now.

[Kevloaf]

If Paul is riding State Man

Lossiemouth runs here!

I would say there is ZERO percent chance that Paul thinks Lossiemouth would lose to Jade De Grugy, so if he rides State Man, this is an odds on Lossiemouth job



Let's face facts and open our minds to the possibility that either O'Leary or 'Ricci' don't do the right thing

[Odin]

You mean champion ?

Yes edited above...

[Carnage at Taunton]

Provided the main players do not come out of the race Willie can not win the Champion Hurdle with State Man. He has a better chance with Lossiemouth. It's been his 2 year plan.

Willie can win the Mares Hurdle with Jade De Grugy. He doesn't need Lossiemouth for that race.

Why defect from a 2 year plan when he has another mare for this race?

If Lossiemouth had stayed up at Leopardstown and dispatched of State Man, like many believe she would of, this wouldn't even be a conversation, regardless of where Brighterdaysahead goes.

They could defect from the plan as things can change in 2 years.
To me it all depends on how they think Lossiemouth would fare in the CH with CH and BDA in the race.
If they think she can beat both then it’s obvious what race.
If they think she’s likely finishing 2nd or 3rd at best then a decision will have to be made.
They might of course be sporting and let her take her chance in the CH, whatever they are thinking.

I still think she won’t be in the same race as BDA at Cheltenham and that early next week is crucial for both the CH and the Mares.

[darlojim]

He's already said State Man is his favourite horse (not in so many words), so I wouldn't put too much stock into that, personally.

Yes, but at the same time, he isn't foolish.

Adding to that, the yard have always been adamant SM is 'the one'

I do think there's every chance Lossie could divert IF BDA goes CH route.

I seen someone say the juice in the price has gone for that now, but I disagree strongly he's 11/2 with Priced Up and you can get 7.5 on the machine. She'll be a fraction of that if they go that way, for all it is a risky punt (and not one I have done yet.. )

[Quevega]

Ah OK, so it's a considerably greater stake than someone laying off what they've already got on and potentially indicates someone knows what's going to happen and is ready to make an "easy" 1k out of it if (when?) she's confirmed going to the Mares?

Cheers

You mean champion ?

[ComplyOrDie]

Yet its very likely Paul will be riding State Man again instead of Lossie..

He's already said State Man is his favourite horse (not in so many words), so I wouldn't put too much stock into that, personally.

[darlojim]

Provided the main players do not come out of the race Willie can not win the Champion Hurdle with State Man. He has a better chance with Lossiemouth. It's been his 2 year plan.

Yet its very likely Paul will be riding State Man again instead of Lossie..