2025 Novice Hurdlers

[Quevega]

Kaid D’Authie will face off against Kopek at the DRF over 2 miles. Kopek will need to jump better to get the better of him in my opinion. If Kopek doesn’t win, surely he’s not going to be Paul’s pick in the Supreme.

Yep Paul will be desperate to have some sort of choice and will be wanting Mundi to turn up and look good in the Flyer.
Kaid is my favourite novice so far, but he needs to jump well also.
He jumps some really really well but has tendency to get close and jam on every now and then also.
If he jumps every fence like he can he'll take some catching.

[Carnage at Taunton]

If Mundi & Kopek don't go well, then yeah, that certainly is an option, but I feel like this happens every year, where we talk about, then it never actually happens

All options will be open, as is the case with Willie, but sometimes I wonder how open they actually are. Maybe once or twice we get a surprise from him, but rarely is it the novice hurdlers.

Galopin from BANC to Marsh chase was one of the ones for me, that I can recall.

On another note, The New Lions price is absolute stink!!

I imagine New Lion backers were already on!!
Absolutely would not back him at current price either.
But he’s rightfully the fav imo.

[Saxon Warrior]

On another note, The New Lions price is absolute stink!!

He got a pretty much ballpark avge rating for the Challow win c/w trends, which takes into account the degree of ease he beat a 127 OR runner-up, by 3-and-3/4L.

Looked impressive
Little substance to back up being a superstar a.t.m.

That won't get tested, as usual for a Challow winner, until March.

Unless those he beat, run again and gag up.

[ComplyOrDie]

I imagine New Lion backers were already on!!
Absolutely would not back him at current price either.
But he’s rightfully the fav imo.

Absolutely, although I think some took 5's on here which is definitely not for me.

[ComplyOrDie]

He got a pretty much ballpark avge rating for the Challow win c/w trends, which takes into account the degree of ease he beat a 127 OR runner-up, by 3-and-3/4L.

Looked impressive
Little substance to back up being a superstar a.t.m.

That won't get tested, as usual for a Challow winner, until March.

Unless those he beat, run again and gag up.

Won as he liked, but the horses he beat wouldn't go close in a Coral Cup, nevermind a Turners, IMO.

It goes without saying, if the other main protagonists don't turn up then it could be a gimme, but if Jasmin & Potter turn up then I can't see him winning it.

The race is looking fairly short in quality so can see why he's fav, but that could be short lived if one of the main contenders of the Lawlors bolts in!

[Saxon Warrior]

Won as he liked, but the horses he beat wouldn't go close in a Coral Cup, nevermind a Turners, IMO.

It goes without saying, if the other main protagonists don't turn up then it could be a gimme, but if Jasmin & Potter turn up then I can't see him winning it.

The race is looking fairly short in quality so can see why he's fav, but that could be short lived if one of the main contenders of the Lawlors bolts in!

There will be plenty in the Nathaniel Lacey at the DRF too.

Some only having their 2nd run.

Loads of unknowns/variables in the Irish Novice Hurdlers just yet, and they have the remaining Grade 1s and we have no more pre-March.

[Lobos]

I did like the look of Kel Histoire. Jumped best of all the Irish I've seen so far and loved the way he quickened. Obviously a crap race he won as per all the other maidens but he'll be tested on his next run for sure.

The English do look to have a very strong hand in the Turners this season IMO and they'd have to be fav at this stage to win in March.

[AaronLad]

I know wendigo got beat at Hexham, but the 4th 5th and 6th have all won a race since from that race, and him and the winner went well clear.

So maybe he's not as bad as you think.

Bill joyce and regent stroll had looked impressive previous.

I'm not a backer and missed out but hes a contender whoever turns up id say

[Saxon Warrior]

I know wendigo got beat at Hexham, but the 4th 5th and 6th have all won a race since from that race, and him and the winner went well clear.

So maybe he's not as bad as you think.

Bill joyce and regent stroll had looked impressive previous.

I'm not a backer and missed out but hes a contender whoever turns up id say

He is a contender, for sure.

All Challow winners are contenders, and most look good winners at Newbury.

Most of the remaining news on the Turners NovH will be generated in Ireland now though.

Potters Charm and The New Lion snagged their Grade 1s last week as connections expected and wont run again before March.

So they're "clubhouse leaders" at the moment, in that market.

I'd be interested to see Final Demand in the Nathaniel Lacey, re seeing if he's a potential Turners or Bartlett horse.

He looked very slick at Christmas.

[ComplyOrDie]

Bill joyce and regent stroll had looked impressive previous.

I've now backed Bill Joyce....for the Bartlett, and Regents Stroll for the Supreme at a big price.

So in essence, IMO, at least, he's beat a 3 miler and a horse that is way too keen for anything beyond 2m currently, and he's not beat them far.

I think The New Lion would travel all over them in a Bartlett, but they won't go that way having just won the Challow.

[Quevega]

I've now backed Bill Joyce....for the Bartlett, and Regents Stroll for the Supreme at a big price.

So in essence, IMO, at least, he's beat a 3 miler and a horse that is way too keen for anything beyond 2m currently, and he's not beat them far.

I think The New Lion would travel all over them in a Bartlett, but they won't go that way having just won the Challow.

He's s bridle horse so the bartlett would be a no no for me.
You need to be able to relax into the bit and/or then be able to bust your lungs in the finish.
Bridle merchants don't do that.
I've backed him for the Turners mind - cos I got lucky that Ladbrokes were asleep after he won.
But I worry that he needs to be really good to travel like that and win a Turners against one or two of the Irish.
And odds on that are not reflected in his current price.

[Exar Essay]

He’s the right favourite. Best form in the book by a reasonable distance at this point. As Sax says, a clubhouse leader. However, he has beaten good horses rather than exceptional horses. Both Bill Joyce and Regents Stroll did plenty wrong too.

Also the Irish trials haven’t taken place yet and plenty have shown promise: Jasmin De Vaux, Kopek Des Bordes, Kaid D’Authie, Final Demand, Koktail Divin, Butch Cassidy, C’est Ta Chance, Workahead, Laafi, Kainsbourg have all shown up reasonably on debut and will have the potential potential to propel themselves into favouritism over 2m4f.

In my opinion, he’s the right favourite but should just about be an ew price.

[ComplyOrDie]

He's s bridle horse so the bartlett would be a no no for me.
You need to be able to relax into the bit and/or then be able to bust your lungs in the finish.
Bridle merchants don't do that.
I've backed him for the Turners mind - cos I got lucky that Ladbrokes were asleep after he won.
But I worry that he needs to be really good to travel like that and win a Turners against one or two of the Irish.
And odds on that are not reflected in his current price.

Could be the first to win the Bartlett on the bridle

In all seriousness, how many bridle horses win at the festival?

[Quevega]

Could be the first to win the Bartlett on the bridle

In all seriousness, how many bridle horses win at the festival?

All the sexy ones,
I mean a bridle horse in the better sense, not in the negative.
But they definitely don't win bartletts, can't think of any for that.

[YoungHustler]

He's s bridle horse so the bartlett would be a no no for me.
You need to be able to relax into the bit and/or then be able to bust your lungs in the finish.
Bridle merchants don't do that.
I've backed him for the Turners mind - cos I got lucky that Ladbrokes were asleep after he won.
But I worry that he needs to be really good to travel like that and win a Turners against one or two of the Irish.
And odds on that are not reflected in his current price.

He's only a bridle horse because he was so much better than the others he beat. I don't think he is a bridle horse and my first interest in him was seeing how he won his bumper. I loved the way he put his head down and wanted to race when asked. His first win at Newbury also wasn't a bridle win as the race was slowly run and turned into a sprint meaning he needed to show he wanted to win and did so when asked. Unfortunately I was slightly disappointed and cashed half my stake on him at decent odds after that race!

I'd really like Regents Stroll to turn up because if he relaxed like in his debut, i think he could easily turn the form.