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Big improver and loves the track. I'm not as impressed by Allaho as some and I do believe he will be beat on the day. Could be any one of 4 though ! -
He'd struggle to beat allaho receiving 20lbsOriginally posted by Stormez View Post
He's a dodgepot who only won last time because the 2nd was legless and had nothing left after going too hard
Allaho wins his 3rd
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Have to say I'm slightly surprised that people's opinions on allaho have seemed to change pretty drastically as a result of today's race. There seemed to be a large number who were questioning what he had left, but winning a nothing race today seems to have turned the tide completely.
Appreciate it and french dynamite have ran no sort of race at all, and not as a result of trying to go with allaho and he burned them off or anything like that, they were both ridden pretty much the same as stattler but just found nothing and ran below par. So your left with a 13l beating of stattler over 2 and a half miles, a national hunt chase winner who was too slow to keep up with the pace in a 3m 2f gold cup.
Allaho was good and there was nothing to knock him with, but my point would be that if you were disappointed with his opening two runs, then I'm not sure what he did today that would signal improvement to you, as a repeat of either of his first two runs of the season would have seen him win like that today.Comment
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Summed up perfectly RR.
Willie seemed more enthusiastic about the run of Stattler than Allaho after the race as well.Comment
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If Willie seemed pleased with the performance of his 160-rated chaser, doesn’t that rather imply that Allaho’s performance was very good, beating him 13 lengths and giving away 5lbs?Originally posted by Lobos View Post
Can you link the comments please as I’ve not seen any yet.
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Yep, completely agree.Originally posted by riccirich View Post
Nowt changed and jury still out as far as Allaho is concerned imoComment
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Who are these people you're talking about?Originally posted by riccirich View Post
I can't see any people who have dramatically changed their opinions?Comment
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Mullins added: “It is brilliant run out of Stattler, he had just started to sparkle in the last month, so it is great he is getting back to form. He had lost his form completely after the Gold Cup, so now we can aim big with him again.Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post
If Willie seemed pleased with the performance of his 160-rated chaser, doesn’t that rather imply that Allaho’s performance was very good, beating him 13 lengths and giving away 5lbs?
Can you link the comments please as I’ve not seen any yet.Comment
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Ah right. Thanks. I’ve seen those comments from Patrick. I thought you may have found something from the main man.Originally posted by Lobos View PostComment
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Support for Stattler after the race for the XCC. Not sure if anything else was said re his Next race?Originally posted by Exar Essay View PostComment
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I was talking about both on here but also in general on twitter and news sites, the general tone before the race was that he had it all to prove and probably wasn't as good as he was, whereas now the popular opinion seems to be that he's back at his best or near it and won't be beat in march, and I don't personally see anything in that performance that would make he think he's shown any improvement from his first two runs at all, which a lot were underwhelmed by.Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
I can go through the posts and single out people who I think have gone overboard about today's performance but I don't really think there's any need to. But I've seen a good few posts about how he's still as good as he was and won't be beat, and how other horses might be put off going for the Ryanair now after his win today. Nothing that I saw today would convince me that any of that is true.Comment
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I would imagine Stattler finds another race to drop his mark again before a GN bidComment
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As an Allaho supporter who thinks he still has a very strong chance of winning the Ryanair, yesterday's performance didn't blow me away but it did confirm that Allaho is fit and preparations are on target for his main target of the year. I also think he will show improvement back going left handed and on better ground.Originally posted by riccirich View Post
The general consensus of Allaho backers is that he does not look the same horse but only because our opinion of him was so high. But this does not mean that he can't win as running 10lbs lower than at his best could still win the Ryanair imo. I do have Stage Star as cover and Banbridge may not even turn up, neverminnd being good enough imo. Envoi Allen is the same age as Allaho and although a good horse, he has never shown as much ability as Allaho and would need to be improving which I don't think he is at his age. Fugitive? Love this horse but will be out of his depth. He couldn't get anywhere near Stage Star!
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Has anything been said re Protektorat possibly coming here?
I would be interested in him, think this race would suit him.Comment
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I'm amazed I've seen some negative takes on social media and on here (beating Stattler, rated 160 by 13 lengths, giving him 5lbs in that ground isn't enough for some people) about Allaho.
He's just a ridiculously talented horse over the mid trip.
I'm hoping the Ryanair will be run on slightly better ground than yesterday, too.
I wonder if the King George was a test to see if he could take a lead, knowing full well Stage Star lining up in the Ryanair could push Allaho for the lead early on. I imagine they'll attempt to just bolt out in front now regardless of Stage Star being in the race or not.
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