2024 Novice Chasers

[Kautostar]

So where does champ kiely sit in willies plans? I’ve always thought of him as a BANC of turners horse. Not so sure about him for NH chase this season. Would be more interested in him next season if he remained a novice. So with IEP going churdle and Gaelic warrior possibly stayers, then champ must be right up there.

12/1 TWAR removes this headache

[Istabraq]

12/1 TWAR removes this headache

Kautostar is Lobos ….

[Kautostar]

Kautostar is Lobos ….

Brothers of TWAR sounds like a tag team from the 80’s

[Lobos]

12/1 TWAR removes this headache

Yep. Spot on. Perfect horse to use the TWAR option as he has 3 options over fences and also the Stayers possibly over hurdles should he not take to the big ones. 8/1 or greater is very fair.

[Benjy23]

He's a bag of shite man

One I very much think Paul will hold back for Aintree this season

He's not one I'd back. And actually looked at the market after the post and he's much shorter with bookies and not available on BEX.... But the only scenario I can think of for PN to suggest SAF might go NHC is if he has something else for the BANC. And it's the only one I could think of

[Lobos]

He's not one I'd back. And actually looked at the market after the post and he's much shorter with bookies and not available on BEX.... But the only scenario I can think of for PN to suggest SAF might go NHC is if he has something else for the BANC. And it's the only one I could think of

HA would be the better of the two as a Hurdler in PN's eyes I'd say so you'd think he'd be aimed at the BANC if he did go to the Festival.

[darlojim]

HA would be the better of the two as a Hurdler in PN's eyes I'd say so you'd think he'd be aimed at the BANC if he did go to the Festival.

I couldn't be having that Lobos, one is a festival winner who held off plenty of the Irish. The other got slaughtered and was well outclassed, and the only excuse he could come up with was that the ground was 'tacky'

[Lobos]

Higher rated Hurdler.....just. I was all over him for the Ballymore but couldn't back him this time around. Think the only Nicholls horse I'll be getting involved with is Stage Star who is Paddy Power Chase bound. He bloody loves Cheltenham that one.

[Eggs]

….I actually backed him for BANC before the AB based solely on PN pre-Festival stable tour when he said this one was a staying chaser and anything he did in the in the AB would be a bonus.

Only slight downside is him finishing behind Maximilian twice but I think there are excuses. Maximilian looks an out and out stayer and might be of interest in NHC. Knowing the trainer, you have to wonder if he’s back planning for a tilt at a future GN (Simon Rowlands after 2nd to Apple Away over 3m at Aintree; ‘Maximilian might well need this trip and further over fences or hurdles next season’).

….looks to have been a bit of interest in Maximilian NHC, 20-1 now best available.

[ComplyOrDie]

….looks to have been a bit of interest in Maximilian NHC, 20-1 now best available.

I was looking at him, but I have some doubts about him.

Firstly I think he's been well placed by Donald McCain, and in turn with this I'd like to see him do it on some stiffer tracks at a high level. His three runs over 3m or thereabouts have been at Bangor, Doncaster & Aintree, and whilst Aintree still takes some getting, the other two are pretty sharp tracks, to my knowledge at least.

Secondly, his breeding. This can be taken however you wish, but he's been winning over 3m on sharp tracks, IMO, because his breeding is all flat related. His dam hasn't produced much, nor his grand dam etc... but his sire is well known for very good, intermediate types, like Torquator Tasso, In Swoop & Alenquer, among others.

Overall I'm not convinced Cheltenham will suit him, nor do I think he's a 'boat'.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if he remained over hurdles. I'm not sure the decision has been made yet.

[Eggs]

I was looking at him, but I have some doubts about him.

Firstly I think he's been well placed by Donald McCain, and in turn with this I'd like to see him do it on some stiffer tracks at a high level. His three runs over 3m or thereabouts have been at Bangor, Doncaster & Aintree, and whilst Aintree still takes some getting, the other two are pretty sharp tracks, to my knowledge at least.

Secondly, his breeding. This can be taken however you wish, but he's been winning over 3m on sharp tracks, IMO, because his breeding is all flat related. His dam hasn't produced much, nor his grand dam etc... but his sire is well known for very good, intermediate types, like Torquator Tasso, In Swoop & Alenquer, among others.

Overall I'm not convinced Cheltenham will suit him, nor do I think he's a 'boat'.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if he remained over hurdles. I'm not sure the decision has been made yet.

…I have no idea of targets but I read in the diaries a comment that DOC is interested in riding him for NHC. I also noted Simon Rowlands after the 3m Aintree race suggesting ‘he would need further next season, whether over hurdles or fences’.

[Benjy23]

Limited targets if he wants further over hurdles

[Lobos]

One that could easily mix it with the best over here.....

The exciting Ile Est Francais is set to be campaigned in Britain later in the year following a dominant success on his chasing debut at Auteuil.
The five-year-old was a Grade One winner over hurdles at the Parisian track last year for Tom George and is now trained in partnership by his son Noel and Amanda Zetterholm.

He returned from a summer break for his first start over fences on Tuesday and could hardly have been more impressive in the hands of James Reveley.

“Auteuil is not easy to jump round for your first time and he jumped round like he’d been round there a hundred times. He was very impressive,” said Noel George.

“We’ve been waiting to run him over fences for a while and now we’ve been able to do it, he impressed us as much as we thought he would. Hopefully he’s got a big career over fences ahead of him.”

Ile Est Francais is set for one more run at Auteuil this autumn before potentially being readied for major meetings on UK soil.

George added: “We have to discuss it with the owners, but I think he’ll probably run at the beginning of November at Auteuil – there’s a Listed race for a five-year-old chasers, which I’d like to think would be a penalty kick for him.

“After that we’ll maybe consider the Coral Gold Cup meeting at Newbury or Kempton at Christmas. He’ll be travelling over to the UK this year, that’s for certain, but when and where that will be, I can’t say for certain yet.

“Newbury would be a nice place for him to start for his first run in England as it’s flat with a nice, long straight.

“I think we’ll probably start him over two and a half miles because he runs over two and a half a lot over here and we can then make a decision on whether he needs to go up or down in trip.

“He’s very versatile and for me, with his speed and jumping, he could easily be a two-miler in England, but we’re dreaming of winning a French Gold Cup with him one day and that is over three and a half miles, so we don’t want him going the wrong way.”

[opatcho]

Am I the only person that hasn’t backed Mr Policeman for the arkle / turners

…. weirdly, don’t feel FOMO - I must be ill or something

[Lobos]

Am I the only person that hasn’t backed Mr Policeman for the arkle / turners

…. weirdly, don’t feel FOMO - I must be ill or something

Don't think so. Just feels that way as a lot of talk about him. He's only had the one run for Willie so he's got it all to prove. Could be El Fabiolo all over again though!!