2023 Novice Chasers

[Guinness Village]

There’s a lot of changes in the antepost markets for the two novice chases at the DRF. Not sure what the relevance is, but seems to be contradictory to antepost festival odds. Any clues? Any significance?

[Lobos]

Given up guessing now GV !!

[opatcho]

Bet365 - about f***ing time, my Sir G bet is no longer greyed out!!!

I feel liberated

[Kevloaf]

Well that interview with Willie Mullins about Sir Gerhard is the exact reason we haven't got individual race threads up yet

[Carnage at Taunton]

Yep. He did have a good blow after and the bad mistake he made might actually have helped with his education. Just wish there was more time to get another run in. There isn't and as a backer I should just be grateful he's back in the picture. I am. I still have faith in him and his obvious liking for Cheltenham and everything that goes with it. He's still a player and the BANC does feel like the right race. He'll be the top rated hurdler going into that won't he ? May well be wrong but can't be far off.

He may or may not be top rated hurdler, not sure myself to be honest, but I am sure he ain’t the best jumper.
Still it’s possible he might jump a lot better next time.
Problem for me is next time will be at the festival, so unless he’s a price that allows for all that, he won’t be of interest for me.

[Fouroverthrutwo]

Well that interview with Willie Mullins about Sir Gerhard is the exact reason we haven't got individual race threads up yet

It's no wonder there's so much speculation about his horses targets when he can't even remember the names of the races! One minute it was The Turners for Sir Gerhard, the next it was the Brown Advisory after intervention from Gary O'Brien and prior to all this he was discussing the NHC. All a bit confusing!

[Carnage at Taunton]

It's no wonder there's so much speculation about his horses targets when he can't even remember the names of the races! One minute it was The Turners for Sir Gerhard, the next it was the Brown Advisory after intervention from Gary O'Brien and prior to all this he was discussing the NHC. All a bit confusing!

Haha, it was a weird one alright.
Was like he was completely thrown by the performance and had to try to figure out what to say about his race for the festival, realising that his initial thoughts had gone out the window.
But who knows with WM??

[Fouroverthrutwo]

Haha, it was a weird one alright.
Was like he was completely thrown by the performance and had to try to figure out what to say about his race for the festival, realising that his initial thoughts had gone out the window.
But who knows with WM??

It wouldn't surprise me if Sir Gerhard ended up in The Stayers Hurdle after all that talk of novice chase races.

[Lobos]

OK, after today......,....


Arkle DD
EF
SR


Turners
AI
JDB
AC

BANC
SG
K

NHC
GDM
R


Nailed it !!!!

[Zachx02]

OK, after today......,....


Arkle DD
EF
SR


Turners
AI
JDB
AC

BANC
SG
K

NHC
GDM
R


Nailed it !!!!

he'll have some more with a much less of a chance running too like flame bearer in the arkle probably but this looks good

[Craigy14]

OK, after today......,....


Arkle DD
EF
SR


Turners
AI
JDB
AC

BANC
SG
K

NHC
GDM
R


Nailed it !!!!

I’d be surprised if GDM and Ramillies both go the NHC.

More likely Ramillies goes to the BANC as back up to Sir G should he be declared and win/go close at the weekend.

[Craigy14]

There’s a lot of changes in the antepost markets for the two novice chases at the DRF. Not sure what the relevance is, but seems to be contradictory to antepost festival odds. Any clues? Any significance?

Might be the cynic side of me but something stinks rotten on how they’ve gone about Appreciate It for the DRF.

No doubt just put it down to Sir G ‘disappointing’ yesterday in view of a turners but surely that would cement his place to go to the Flogas.

I know they’re not always in the know but are the one bookie supposedly on the button with WPM runners.

[RoadToCheltenham]

Times aren't everything but the time of Sir Gerhard's race yesterday relative to standard was pretty good - especially compared to the other races on the card.

Given it was a 3 runner race, they went a fair clip generally and I'm sure some of the proper time analysis guys will be taking a look at the race in more detail.

I'd say the Turners probably remains most likely in my mind - though it is Willie Mullins & it could easily be the case that Sir Gerhard slots in around some of his others if the big guns perform at the DRF.

[AaronLad]

Might be the cynic side of me but something stinks rotten on how they’ve gone about Appreciate It for the DRF.

No doubt just put it down to Sir G ‘disappointing’ yesterday in view of a turners but surely that would cement his place to go to the Flogas.

I know they’re not always in the know but are the one bookie supposedly on the button with WPM runners.

All the evidence on the race track has always pointed to Appreciate it being kept to 2 miles so nobody should be surprised if he goes irish arkle.
Unfortunately if you've interpreted the market as meaning he steps up in trip, who's fault is that? The bookmakers?
He could still end up anywhere, but try to just use your own opinion not markets if i could give you any advice, then there's nobody to blame but yourself.

I'd think it very likely that one of the mullins runners could come to the kingmaker to take on jonbon now, probably el fabiolo but that's just my opinion.

[Craigy14]

All the evidence on the race track has always pointed to Appreciate it being kept to 2 miles so nobody should be surprised if he goes irish arkle.
Unfortunately if you've interpreted the market as meaning he steps up in trip, who's fault is that? The bookmakers?
He could still end up anywhere, but i'd base your decision on your own opinion not markets if i could give you any advice, then there's nobody to blame but yourself.

I'd think it very likely that one of the mullins runners could come to the kingmaker to take on jonbon now, probably el fabiolo but that's just my opinion.

Not arguing with what he’s done on the track but the betting in the last while fully suggested he was being aimed at the Flogas. That in turn would fully suggest he was being stepped up in trip.

I don’t really care where he ends up that’s not the point I’m trying to make. Re-read what I’ve wrote or interpret as I’ve intended as nothing to do with my bets but just how they have treated the market. I can guarantee they have potentially fooled many a person into backing him for the Flogas and potential turners on the back of the moves. Edit - provided he does end up running in the Irish Arkle as the betting suggests again with the switch in prices.

And before you point out about the Tuners bet I’ve got, that was done months and months ago.