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2023 Champion Hurdle

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  • Do we think State Man and/or Vauban will beat Honeysuckle in the Irish equivalent??

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    • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
      Do we think State Man and/or Vauban will beat Honeysuckle in the Irish equivalent??
      At least one, yes (imo)

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      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
        Do we think State Man and/or Vauban will beat Honeysuckle in the Irish equivalent??
        Yes for me

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        • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
          Do we think State Man and/or Vauban will beat Honeysuckle in the Irish equivalent??
          Will be close between the 3 of them. I don't think Honeysuckle actually ran any worse last time than she has done in the Hattons Grace in the past. Back down to 2m at Leopardstown will see her in a better light. If she beats those two, it could be the best win of her career.

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          • Originally posted by DenmanSacre View Post

            Will be close between the 3 of them. I don't think Honeysuckle actually ran any worse last time than she has done in the Hattons Grace in the past. Back down to 2m at Leopardstown will see her in a better light. If she beats those two, it could be the best win of her career.
            I think it will have to be pretty much her best to beat both.
            They are both young and improving and at her age she’s vulnerable to those sorts. And they do look pretty good to
            me.

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            • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

              I think it will have to be pretty much her best to beat both.
              They are both young and improving and at her age she’s vulnerable to those sorts. And they do look pretty good to
              me.
              I agree.

              I feel like one of them needs to win the race well (if all 3 met) for me to think any of them can beat Constitution Hill though now... if they finished fairly closely matched, I'd probably be thinking that they're 3 really good horses, up against a great horse.... unlikely we have 4 great horses.

              If one thrashed the others though, I'd think that maybe we had 2 great horses....

              Which I want to see, to make it exciting and at least give me a chance of 1/2 about Constitution Hill

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              • Loved to see Honey win it but can see Vauban improving past her. Was really impressed with him in defeat today. None of them will touch CH though. The only way he doesn't win is if he gets injured or something goes wrong in the race itself.

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                • I'd say there's a reasonable chance that honeysuckle will be retired if she is beaten comfortably again in the Irish champion

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                  • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post
                    I'd say there's a reasonable chance that honeysuckle will be retired if she is beaten comfortably again in the Irish champion
                    Big chance I'd say and rightly so.

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                    • I saw a Facebook group yesterday or status from one of the groups on there and read through the comments as you do (if you don't, don't....I always regret it even without commenting ) and it seemed like absolutely everyone was taking Vauban out of the race...

                      It started annoying me in the end to the point where I wanted to get involved and just declare State Man is clearly better.... but realised I don't believe that and Vauban might end up improving past him... which is genuinely what I thought pre-season... and now I'm annoyed that other people agree

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                      • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                        I saw a Facebook group yesterday or status from one of the groups on there and read through the comments as you do (if you don't, don't....I always regret it even without commenting ) and it seemed like absolutely everyone was taking Vauban out of the race...

                        It started annoying me in the end to the point where I wanted to get involved and just declare State Man is clearly better.... but realised I don't believe that and Vauban might end up improving past him... which is genuinely what I thought pre-season... and now I'm annoyed that other people agree

                        That post made me smile, i often find myself doing very similar ! I also think vauban was the one to take from the race.

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                        • Originally posted by Ice View Post

                          That post made me smile, i often find myself doing very similar ! I also think vauban was the one to take from the race.
                          All my posts should make you smile!

                          State Man is better

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                          • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                            All my posts should make you smile!

                            State Man is better

                            Obviously that goes without saying, the first statement, the second one, time will tell ! They're both gonna have to he pretty special to get near Constitution Hill though !

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                            • Deleted Facebook for this very reason, although not horse racing comment related. Just found myself spending time on there getting annoyed by other people's comments

                              Hoping most people, including Townend, stick with State Man tbh

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                              • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                                I saw a Facebook group yesterday or status from one of the groups on there and read through the comments as you do (if you don't, don't....I always regret it even without commenting ) and it seemed like absolutely everyone was taking Vauban out of the race...

                                It started annoying me in the end to the point where I wanted to get involved and just declare State Man is clearly better.... but realised I don't believe that and Vauban might end up improving past him... which is genuinely what I thought pre-season... and now I'm annoyed that other people agree

                                I'm in one which, 100% agree that you shouldn't open the comments they make me bang my head against the wall

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