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Cheltenham 2023 - Early fancies

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  • #16
    A couple of the less obvious ones that interest me slightly... Both with Sky

    Mighty Potter - Arkle at 33/1. I'd like a reason as to why he's run quite so badly in the Supreme. But his earlier hurdles form is decent (TSL ran well in the Ballymore) and they've always thought of him as a chaser. It's not clear what else might go novice chasing and over 2 miles yet but just thought it was potentially a fair price. Not sure if he's available anywhere else?

    Brandy Love - Mares Hurdle 16/1. No superstars in either the Mares Hurdle or the Mares Novice Hurdle this year imo. I was quite keen on her for the latter is this year, so it seems logical I remain so. Price is probably only reasonable but doubt many others are offering a market?

    Of the more obvious ones I like... Facile Vega - Supreme, American Mike - Ballymore, L'homme Presse - Gold Cup, Sir G - Turner's, Constitution Hill - Champion Hurdle.

    Mostly fairly average prices that lot. Life changing accas on early though

    Considering L'homme Presse as a single as well. Now GDC and Bob would look unlikely for the distance. APT the obvious danger.

    See GDM for NH Chase got a mention as well. One I'm keeping my eye on the novice status for.

    James Gate for Ballymore and American Mike for Bartlett interesting shouts as well. I like to combine the top 3 from the bumper in the Novice Hurdles... For no return every year. One day I'll have it though.
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    Last edited by Benjy23; 19 March 2022, 01:37 PM.

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    • #17
      Constitution Hill, Facile Vega, Galopin Des Champs & Sir Gerhard all to win any race

      100/1
      One I feel is worth a few quid, doubt that price will be there long.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by darlojim View Post
        Constitution Hill, Facile Vega, Galopin Des Champs & Sir Gerhard all to win any race

        100/1
        One I feel is worth a few quid, doubt that price will be there long.

        …potentially all in separate divisions, although I suppose Sir G and Costitutional Hill could oppose.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by darlojim View Post
          Constitution Hill, Facile Vega, Galopin Des Champs & Sir Gerhard all to win any race

          100/1
          One I feel is worth a few quid, doubt that price will be there long.
          Constitution Hill and Sir G both ending up in the Champion Hurdle is my only concern. Willie name-checked the race after Sir G's Ballymore win.

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          • #20
            He's certainly not the most sound antepost proposition but I'm wondering what Ferny Hollow does as well. Does Allaho go Gold Cup and open up a Ryanair option for him? CPS have APT for Gold Cup though, so if they're calling the shots maybe they keep Allaho Ryanair, APT Gold Cup and Ferny targets champion chase?

            What will Willie want? As he has Energumene for Champion Chase and possibly GDC for Ryanair to add to the mix.

            Any ideas how involved CPS are on targets for Mullins horses?

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            • #21
              I really like Hillcrest for the Festival Novices Chase. You can put a line through yesterday’s run, I think he left his race behind at Haydock on that heavy ground. He has previous Cheltenham form, so we know he acts on the course. Can’t see him being dropped back in trip. Hopefully all is well with him after yesterday.

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              • #22
                My early fancies - I like the look of the below:
                • LHP & Stattler - Gold Cup
                • Deeply Superficial & Better Days ahead - Bumper
                • The Nice Guy - Stayers
                • James Gate - Ballymore
                • demandrivingdouvan - Supreme/Ballymore

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                • #23
                  Anyone else think Constitution Hill will go down the Altior/Shishkin route and go chasing?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by darlojim View Post

                    Read the starting post - no after timing please, it matters little to anyone.
                    I obviously misread the post, thought it was asking for bets already placed. Didn't realise what after timing was I thought after timing was claiming a horse had already won and that I had backed it at different prices

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post
                      He's certainly not the most sound antepost proposition but I'm wondering what Ferny Hollow does as well. Does Allaho go Gold Cup and open up a Ryanair option for him? CPS have APT for Gold Cup though, so if they're calling the shots maybe they keep Allaho Ryanair, APT Gold Cup and Ferny targets champion chase?

                      What will Willie want? As he has Energumene for Champion Chase and possibly GDC for Ryanair to add to the mix.

                      Any ideas how involved CPS are on targets for Mullins horses?
                      They are happy to let willie decide from the interviews iv seen

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Altior View Post
                        Anyone else think Constitution Hill will go down the Altior/Shishkin route and go chasing?
                        Is he big enough?

                        Was dwarfed by Dysart dynamo and jonbon when they all lined up

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                        • #27
                          He's obviously very short for it but in 11 months and a few weeks time we might be saying Delta Work is the banker of the meeting for the cross country, 5/2 Skybet

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

                            Is he big enough?

                            Was dwarfed by Dysart dynamo and jonbon when they all lined up
                            I guess that'd be the concern you'd have alright. Looks like a foal compared to Jonbon.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Altior View Post
                              Anyone else think Constitution Hill will go down the Altior/Shishkin route and go chasing?
                              I think that might be more likely in 2024 he goes chasing. He's only 5, Jonbon is 6 so its better timing for Jonbon of the two. So will be going novice chasing at 7 and gives them the chance to have a crack at the Champion Hurdle at 6.

                              I can see him going up in trip at some point to, so Champion Hurdle and then the aim of the GC would be a huge dream and potentially possible one

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Winging The Last View Post

                                I think that might be more likely in 2024 he goes chasing. He's only 5, Jonbon is 6 so its better timing for Jonbon of the two. So will be going novice chasing at 7 and gives them the chance to have a crack at the Champion Hurdle at 6.

                                I can see him going up in trip at some point to, so Champion Hurdle and then the aim of the GC would be a huge dream and potentially possible one
                                Really good point about the age, I forgot about that. That plan would make sense.

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