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Ryanair Chase 2021

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  • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

    Easy to hide a non trier when the stewards can't see anything

    you don't ride a front running 3 miler stepping down in trip out the back if you are trying, unless the pace completely collapses the horse has no chance of making up the ground
    Easy for Willie to work out how to control the race with 4 runners today, and only BOD and Chris’s Dream to consider as opposition, given Le Richebourg was running back from injury, and put right out of the back.

    Not sure what to make of it, Min fair play on the race hat-trick, but a length win from Tornado Flyer, and an RPR of 164 isn’t going to scare off anyone.

    Melon got a blowout ready for Christmas, that didn’t tell us much about his hopes at any trip really.

    BOD and Chris’s Dream can be struck off any Festival shortlist for the Ryanair, as they were race fit with good LTO performances, but collapsed against first time out horses here.

    Allaho?

    "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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    • Disappointing we didn't get to see Samcro today as I would have liked to see how he would have feared against Min. I have backed samcro and defi but this race looks a bit of a minefield as always this time of year but made even harder being unable to watch the race today. Hard enough to predict who will turn up let alone win it, Think I've missed a trick not backing Min with the target assured.

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      • Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post

        Easy for Willie to work out how to control the race with 4 runners today, and only BOD and Chris’s Dream to consider as opposition, given Le Richebourg was running back from injury, and put right out of the back.

        Not sure what to make of it, Min fair play on the race hat-trick, but a length win from Tornado Flyer, and an RPR of 164 isn’t going to scare off anyone.

        Melon got a blowout ready for Christmas, that didn’t tell us much about his hopes at any trip really.

        BOD and Chris’s Dream can be struck off any Festival shortlist for the Ryanair, as they were race fit with good LTO performances, but collapsed against first time out horses here.

        Allaho?
        You say 'only a length' beating Tornado Saxon, but none of the others managed that today. It was a solid win and he will be rightful favourite on the day. Be interesting to see if some of the others can improve but Min is a solid bet for this make no bones about it.

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        • Originally posted by jonthehammer View Post

          You say 'only a length' beating Tornado Saxon, but none of the others managed that today. It was a solid win and he will be rightful favourite on the day. Be interesting to see if some of the others can improve but Min is a solid bet for this make no bones about it.
          Yes, he is the form pick, as last seasons winners often are.

          He is at a level that ought to be challengeable, but I would expect him to be in the firing line as they come into the finishing straight on Festival Thursday.
          "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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          • Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post

            Yes, he is the form pick, as last seasons winners often are.

            He is at a level that ought to be challengeable, but I would expect him to be in the firing line as they come into the finishing straight on Festival Thursday.
            It promises to be a good race but as he showed this year he has the class to fend them off. Samcro could be the challenger if he jumps properly

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            • Originally posted by jonthehammer View Post

              It promises to be a good race but as he showed this year he has the class to fend them off. Samcro could be the challenger if he jumps properly
              Great course form, I would also be interested in A Plus Tard, who has little to find with Min.

              APT’s problem being the need to go left-handed, and next to no left-handed Graded races over mid-trips each year until Cheltenham in March.

              So we won’t see how he can perform over his optimum trip and track until the Ryanair on Festival Thursday, which should keep his price in double figures for a good while yet.
              "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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              • Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post

                Great course form, I would also be interested in A Plus Tard, who has little to find with Min.
                APT’s problem being the need to go left-handed, and next to no left-handed Graded races over mid-trips each year until Cheltenham in March. So we won’t see how he can perform over his optimum trip and track until the Ryanair on Festival Thursday, which should keep his price in double figures for a good while yet.
                He is a funny one is APT and i still dont know if i am a fan or not haha. He is one that very much divides opinion and i am firmly on the fence until i see him again

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                • I'm not sure there is much to gain by not trying with Allaho.

                  Although he may not have been as fit as could be.

                  The hold up tactics may simply be down to them trying to get him to settle better in his races and not be so keen.

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                  • Originally posted by YoungHustler View Post

                    Yeah, just my opinion. It's only an instant bet if you fancy him. I didn't take the bigger prices over the summer or attempt any roll ups on Min so not really going to want to take the 8s and lower now. I'm happy for Min and Imperial Aura to make the market for the horses I do fancy.
                    Not his biggest fan either but 8/1 is an instant bet. He was 10/1 over the summer he hasn't even shortened much. He's proved his well being and won another G1. Not sure why you wouldn't take 8/1 when you will be able to lay off much lower on the day but each to their own.

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                    • Originally posted by germanshepherd View Post

                      Not his biggest fan either but 8/1 is an instant bet. He was 10/1 over the summer he hasn't even shortened much. He's proved his well being and won another G1. Not sure why you wouldn't take 8/1 when you will be able to lay off much lower on the day but each to their own.
                      You could say that for a lot of horses where their target is pretty much confirmed and you're only taking the risk of them not turning up on the day.

                      However, I'm not a layer of horses but hopefully Min will be shorter than 3s for you on the day.

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                      • I was on Min last year so I was delighted with his win in 2020, but I'll be opposing him come March 2021. Given the tactics employed in March and yesterday, Min's high cruising speed can take horses out of their comfort zone over 2m4f and if you look at the analysis Ruby did re UDS winning the Ryanair on RTV, this can be a valuable trait specifically in this race. Highly likely he will jump off from the front and try and make all, but he only just held on this year and I think the 2021 running of the Ryanair has the potential to be more competitive than 2020 (obviously this can all change). He'll be a year older which is a small part of the equation, but I think worth noting (plenty of 10 year olds worse than him have won, so perhaps less relevant)




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                        • In what world is Imperial Aura the fav here over Min? Absolutely outrageous that some bookies make IA shorter than a 7 time Grade 1 winner, defending champion who’s being aimed at the race.

                          I already have Min for this not long after he won for me in the race last year as I thought double figures was slightly unfair. But 15/2 right now is just absolutely insane. How can anyone tell me IA is correct to be shorter in the betting. It’s outrageous.

                          I now make Min one of the best priced horses of anything in the antepost markets for the entire festival.

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                          • Originally posted by Middle_Of_March View Post
                            In what world is Imperial Aura the fav here over Min? Absolutely outrageous that some bookies make IA shorter than a 7 time Grade 1 winner, defending champion who’s being aimed at the race.

                            I already have Min for this not long after he won for me in the race last year as I thought double figures was slightly unfair. But 15/2 right now is just absolutely insane. How can anyone tell me IA is correct to be shorter in the betting. It’s outrageous.

                            I now make Min one of the best priced horses of anything in the antepost markets for the entire festival.
                            Could you swap Min for Altior in that, would it all still make some sense? (and CPS for IA)....

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                            • Originally posted by Middle_Of_March View Post
                              In what world is Imperial Aura the fav here over Min? Absolutely outrageous that some bookies make IA shorter than a 7 time Grade 1 winner, defending champion who’s being aimed at the race.

                              I already have Min for this not long after he won for me in the race last year as I thought double figures was slightly unfair. But 15/2 right now is just absolutely insane. How can anyone tell me IA is correct to be shorter in the betting. It’s outrageous.

                              I now make Min one of the best priced horses of anything in the antepost markets for the entire festival.
                              Having a race favorite that we think shouldn't be favourite is what we are all searching for.

                              Then we have more chance to win with something else at longer odds.
                              "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                              • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                                Could you swap Min for Altior in that, would it all still make some sense? (and CPS for IA)....
                                I definitely think Altior is overpriced.

                                That being said, CPS has at least won a Grade 1 and is trained by Mullins so I can at least understand why he’s the CC favourite. Imperial Aura certainly hasn’t won a grade 1. Hes miles too short.

                                Min has to be shorter in the betting. He just has to be. It makes no sense.

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