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As it's a horse that seems so important to the Forum, a quick note that PP/Betfair have just cut Journey For Me from 8-1 to 7-1, leaving Skybet at a standout 9-1. Encouraging!
I'll try and take that as a positive! Most likely i suspect its just PP adjusting their liability, seems to have been plenty of pushes and pulls for all races and plenty have noted cash out yo-yoing
I'll try and take that as a positive! Most likely i suspect its just PP adjusting their liability, seems to have been plenty of pushes and pulls for all races and plenty have noted cash out yo-yoing
….well, Many Clouds posted elsewhere that he’d had information from a reliable source that JWM is heading here & Gerri to the Bally. I suspect PP are getting similar detail.
Finishing a few lengths of Cash Back whilst looking very green isn't the worst result in the world is it? Cash Back has an OR of 156 over fences. I guess that's why they have novice and maiden races, Willie.
I wouldn't be put off by that run. You'd want him to settle better, but on Spring ground, I think I'd aim him here. Most 20's, SkyBet 25's, but 365 are 33's. As always 365 have pushed the price out on a hype horse following defeat to, I assume, minimise cash out. I'm happy to chance the 33's only having him in a small multiple otherwise.
I admire your positivity if losing to the outsider of the field is read as a positive! The 8/1 about cash back must have looked a gift considering how highly you rate him….
I admire your positivity if losing to the outsider of the field is read as a positive! The 8/1 about cash back must have looked a gift considering how highly you rate him….
Taking my quote out of all context to try and make a grandstanding comment. What I said, as you know, is that "it wasn't the worst result in the world", that "I wouldn't be put off by that run", and that "I'm happy to chance the 33's" about a horse in it's maiden run against seasoned pros. Hardly doing cartwheels about the performance.
….well, Many Clouds posted elsewhere that he’d had information from a reliable source that JWM is heading here & Gerri to the Bally. I suspect PP are getting similar detail.
Yet PP remain a standout best price of 25s on Gerri for the Ballymore and remain 6/1 on JWM for the Ballymore. If PP had that info surely they would push JWM out for the Ballymore and shorten Gerri from their standout 25s
Dont get me wrong, like many im heavily invested in JWM for the Bartlett so hoping he goes there, but PP clipping him from 8s to 7s whilst clipping many other horses for the festival at the same time is surely just a liability adjustment.
Taking my quote out of all context to try and make a grandstanding comment. What I said, as you know, is that "it wasn't the worst result in the world", that "I wouldn't be put off by that run", and that "I'm happy to chance the 33's" about a horse in it's maiden run against seasoned pros. Hardly doing cartwheels about the performance.
No fair enough XRSA I was being a bit mischievous. The performance could have been worse but in the context of Cheltenham I’m happy enough to kick him into touch for this year.
As it's a horse that seems so important to the Forum, a quick note that PP/Betfair have just cut Journey For Me from 8-1 to 7-1, leaving Skybet at a standout 9-1. Encouraging!
Sky into 8/1 now. They've been shuffling a lot of their markets around today.
Journey With Me has become a complicated horse for me. Almost all my bets have him for the Bartlett, but I have one roll up with him in the Ballymore and a double with him in the BM + Facile Vega. I really want to cash both of these bets because it'd give me a nice 11pt profit which I'd rather not let go, but then... if he runs in the Ballymore...
I've not taken any chances with JWM. Got on early singles for both races and used scattergun approach in both races in numerous doubles with other fancied horses. I still wouldn't be certain where he'll end up. Hopefully not the Supreme!!!
Take a look at Mahler Allstar in the 3m Maiden at Cork on Saturday. Ran well in the Cheltenham bumper after finishing 3rd behind Appreciate It (and Freedom to Dream) in a Christmas Leopardstown bumper.
Clearly had issues as only had one run over hurdles in the good 2m 4f maiden at Leopardstown"s Christmas meeting in 2020. He finished 3rd behind Stattler (in front of Lifetime Ambition) running on having never been put into the race at any stage.
Would expect him to win on Saturday and could see him being a live outsider for this.
Interesting shout this BOF, made me go back and take another look what with both Shantreusse and Fantasio D’alene in it. It’ll be a no bet race for me, but I will watch it and Mahler Allstar now very closely. Cheers
Added Hi Ho Phoenix- 25-1 , earlier this week to my A.B List .
I was very impressed by the way he won at Fairyhouse in december . In his maiden hurdle over 2m 7 f.
A race won by none other than Monkfish 2 years ago ., and several other useful types .
Probably going to need a couple more runs to be a bartlett candidate , but with Willie M. , so who knows ??.
Interesting shout this BOF, made me go back and take another look what with both Shantreusse and Fantasio D’alene in it. It’ll be a no bet race for me, but I will watch it and Mahler Allstar now very closely. Cheers
I cashed my Mr Glass bet for the Bartlett this morning when it dawned on me he was racing in the Tolworth. He didn’t have the pace for 2 mile (Constitutional Hill was very impressive though) so maybe this race is once again a possibility. Shame his trainer has an allergic reaction to Prestbury Park but hopefully the owners will lean on him and send him to this race
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