2022 Mares Hurdle

[Stormez]

EIR is the only one I’ve heard mentioned in terms of the Champion Hurdle & he confirmed SWIW would be aimed for the Mares Hurdle in his stable tour, so I’d be surprised to see them switch.

[FinalFurlong91]

Echoes in rain can be very keen

Would she stay 2m4f at Cheltenham?

Id have big doubts personally

[jack1092]

Echoes in rain can be very keen

Would she stay 2m4f at Cheltenham?

Id have big doubts personally

Same, even if she's showing more capability of being held up. Which is partly the reason why i suspect they are wanting to get her in a CH rather than a mares.

Though i agree with most of the above, WPM doesn't often leave himself short for this.

[Quevega]

Same, even if she's showing more capability of being held up. Which is partly the reason why i suspect they are wanting to get her in a CH rather than a mares.

Though i agree with most of the above, WPM doesn't often leave himself short for this.

He's not though really.
He won't bat an eyelid moving from chase to hurdles when he makes declarations for festival week.
Depends how all the race options pan out though I suppose.
It does make this race tricky for antepost betting though, unless SWIW emerges as a super strong contender, but the signals are that we may not see much of her.

[jack1092]

He's not though really.
He won't bat an eyelid moving from chase to hurdles when he makes declarations for festival week.
Depends how all the race options pan out though I suppose.
It does make this race tricky for antepost betting though, unless SWIW emerges as a super strong contender, but the signals are that we may not see much of her.

Yep i realise Concertista etc can revert back. Not sure where i stand with any of his tbh, don't think Concertista is all that over 2m4, SWIW got a layoff to return from, Gauloise is decent but wouldn't have her top of the novices from last year, Hook Up can't jump...i'm sure i'm missing one or two perhaps.

I just think if he's sending Concerstista chasing, and maybe Gauloise (mixed messages) he must think he has something decent to cover for them and take on TMSG through the season.

[Quevega]

Yep i realise Concertista etc can revert back. Not sure where i stand with any of his tbh, don't think Concertista is all that over 2m4, SWIW got a layoff to return from, Gauloise is decent but wouldn't have her top of the novices from last year, Hook Up can't jump...i'm sure i'm missing one or two perhaps.

I just think if he's sending Concerstista chasing, and maybe Gauloise (mixed messages) he must think he has something decent to cover for them and take on TMSG through the season.

I think Gauloise was a surprise, if she does go chasing.
But I think he is factoring in that they can always revert.
I doubt he thinks he has a superstar for the mares race.
It's probably more that he sees the Mares hurdle as weak/winnable full stop.

It is different to previous occasions when he has done it with BDD & VVM, as there is a mares chase now.
But going novice chasing just provides more options/versatility. As I think he sees no problem going for the hurdle race at the festival if they've been chasing all year.
He can then select his team according to form, opposition and who is available/fit.
If they stayed over hurdles then going for the chase option is extremely unlikely.
And the quevega hurdle just before the festival is a perfect prep if he feels they need a spin over hurdles first.

[jack1092]

“With Burning Victory, we have to improve her jumping. At the moment, she can jump half the hurdles in a race. Once she gets her jumping act together, I think her racing will take a hike.”

Love this quote from Willie on BV. Also fair to say he thinks a bit of her!

[That Horse]

“With Burning Victory, we have to improve her jumping. At the moment, she can jump half the hurdles in a race. Once she gets her jumping act together, I think her racing will take a hike.”

Love this quote from Willie on BV. Also fair to say he thinks a bit of her!

There's another quote the RP tour where he says,

"we'll maybe be looking for mares' races over a longer trip where she'd be able to handle hurdles better."

What are these longer trip mares races? Speculation on my part but could she rematch Buzz in the Stayers perhaps?

[charlie]

Hallelujah!!!! I've finally sussed Willie out after 40 years of being a NH racing fan. With Echoes In Rain going Champion Hurdle and Concertista and Gauloise going chasing, he's now down to 1 serious challenger for this race in Shewearsitwell. Thank you Willie. Grab the 12/1 while you can I say.

I wouldn't get too carried away Lobos. She's looked very good, but has beaten very little and is returning from a long lay off following injury. Willie mentioned this race for a number of his and as always, targets will change and horses will emerge. It is a temping price though. She looks very good but lots of mares do and then when tested, don't.

[Lbur4288]

I wouldn't get too carried away Lobos. She's looked very good, but has beaten very little and is returning from a long lay off following injury. Willie mentioned this race for a number of his and as always, targets will change and horses will emerge. It is a temping price though. She looks very good but lots of mares do and then when tested, don't.

Connections think very very highly of her and her layoff was more down to protecting the horse than a major injury. That's not to say don't have reservations but from the digging I've done and the noises I have heard (along with what we know already) she's way above average. Connections were preparing for a crack at the Supreme last year and said that her Royal Bond entry last year was for good reason.

[Lobos]

Connections think very very highly of her and her layoff was more down to protecting the horse than a major injury. That's not to say don't have reservations but from the digging I've done and the noises I have heard (along with what we know already) she's way above average. Connections were preparing for a crack at the Supreme last year and said that her Royal Bond entry last year was for good reason.

Cheers Lbur. Great info that makes me want to go in again. The 12/1 is a standout price for me along with 8/1 Telmesomethinggirl.

[Odin]

Cheers Lbur. Great info that makes me want to go in again. The 12/1 is a standout price for me along with 8/1 Telmesomethinggirl.

I'm of exactly the same mindset as things stand. Between them, they seem to have the perfect makings of cross doubles/trebles... Which obviously means one (or both) of them will get chinned on the line come march!

[Lobos]

Love those Cross Doubles or Block Doubles which now seems the funky new name. Those 2 fit the bill.....just need to find the next best 2 in the current fez race markets.

[OscarWhisky]

I’ve been doing SWIW and TMSG plus JWM and Hollow Games

[Odin]

I’ve been doing SWIW and TMSG plus JWM and Hollow Games

I might have to add this one...