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2022 Mares Hurdle

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  • Originally posted by TigerRolllllll View Post
    One that interests me at longer price here is FINEST EVERMORE....still some 25s available (longer on exchange, tho have taken some)

    I think TMSG will win and main rival for me is Royal Kahala if she goes, but am looking around for over-priced ones for the book and this strikes me as an opportunity....

    Was one of the highly-rated Willie ones last season are good summer campaign, but was injured and missed festival

    Comeback run was good behind Royal Kahala and finished very strong after patient ride (bodes well for hill)......and still achieving 145 PPR and is a very unexposed 6-year old who could progress

    Looking at best RPRs of other key ones...

    Most likely can progress..

    TMSG - 154
    RH - 151
    Martello Sky - 142
    Burn Vic - 141
    Queens Broo- 136

    More exposed...

    Stormy - 152
    HHU - 148

    All above are shorter prices...and FE has had only 6 lifetime runs trained by the Mares genius

    Prob not an EW play till NRNB, but one of more interesting longer-priced ones
    I quite like her too though I’m a little concerned the old course might be a little too sharp for her. That’s said with the likes of HHU and SI in the race there should be plenty of pace in the race.She’s always looked to me like she’d improve for 3 miles.

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    • Originally posted by TigerRolllllll View Post
      One that interests me at longer price here is FINEST EVERMORE....still some 25s available (longer on exchange, tho have taken some)

      I think TMSG will win and main rival for me is Royal Kahala if she goes, but am looking around for over-priced ones for the book and this strikes me as an opportunity....

      Was one of the highly-rated Willie ones last season are good summer campaign, but was injured and missed festival

      Comeback run was good behind Royal Kahala and finished very strong after patient ride (bodes well for hill)......and still achieving 145 PPR and is a very unexposed 6-year old who could progress

      Looking at best RPRs of other key ones...

      Most likely can progress..

      TMSG - 154
      RH - 151
      Martello Sky - 142
      Burn Vic - 141
      Queens Broo- 136

      More exposed...

      Stormy - 152
      HHU - 148

      All above are shorter prices...and FE has had only 6 lifetime runs trained by the Mares genius

      Prob not an EW play till NRNB, but one of more interesting longer-priced ones
      Yep, been on the radar a long time. Well worth having covered IMO

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      • Anyone heard anything on Queens Brook? I've seen still has an entry for this but when could we expect another run

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        • Originally posted by DeeBee View Post
          Anyone heard anything on Queens Brook? I've seen still has an entry for this but when could we expect another run
          Not sure she is good enough?

          Her best PRP is 136....so more than a stone to find with TMSG and few others

          Could improve and one i will look at on day maybe.....but at the moment, one i have ignored (maybe at my peril)
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          • Hennessy confirming Mares is target for Heaven Help Us (Sporting Life)


            “So, I am certain she will go for the Mares’ Hurdle at Cheltenham now, as she would have to carry nearly top-weight in the Coral Cup.

            “She ran very well in that graded race at Leopardstown and while the weights suited her slightly in that, I don’t think a couple of pounds either way would have made much odds.”

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            • She's not without a chance here but... moaning about being top weight in a handicap and then suggesting 8lb (she was getting from TMSG) doesn't make any difference in the same sentence.

              Cheek pieces back on here surely.

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              • Originally posted by DeeBee View Post
                Anyone heard anything on Queens Brook? I've seen still has an entry for this but when could we expect another run

                ….after her last run/win, Elliott said she’s a very difficult mare to get fit. She was very burly on that occasion yet jumped very slickly. Elliott said afterwards he’d run her too soon (after her previous run) but it was too good an opportunity to miss. He said he was tempted to now put her in a handicap, which I suspect might be the Nares Handicap at DRF.

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                • May have missed some trainer quotes but my sister sarah. What race she going for (entered in stayers/and this) . If she wins tomorrow then what shortens ?
                  Not sure why she is 33s now.

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                  • Originally posted by punterorplonker View Post
                    May have missed some trainer quotes but my sister sarah. What race she going for (entered in stayers/and this) . If she wins tomorrow then what shortens ?
                    She won’t be good enough for either Cheltenham race, can win those lesser UK races like tomorrow and what she did at Kempton the other week but not a G1 mare for me.


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                    • Originally posted by Madmoose View Post

                      She won’t be good enough for either Cheltenham race, can win those lesser UK races like tomorrow and what she did at Kempton the other week but not a G1 mare for me.

                      But entered and potentially going " Mullins added from his Closutton base: "We'll try to keep her to mares' races over that kind of trip and perhaps we'll look to Leopardstown at Christmas next while keeping an eye on the English programme as well.

                      "I'd imagine the Mares' Hurdle (at Cheltenham) will be her main target in the spring at this stage."

                      I am after the 34 place value, not a win bet.

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                      • Originally posted by punterorplonker View Post

                        But entered and potentially going " Mullins added from his Closutton base: "We'll try to keep her to mares' races over that kind of trip and perhaps we'll look to Leopardstown at Christmas next while keeping an eye on the English programme as well.

                        "I'd imagine the Mares' Hurdle (at Cheltenham) will be her main target in the spring at this stage."

                        I am after the 34 place value, not a win bet.
                        Didn't she go off a bigger price last year with more places available on the day? I'm sure I backed her then or the year before so not knocking the bet, but I'd wait until the day to place it personally

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                        • Royal Kahala heavily cut for this after today's win. Ignoring the misfiring favourite who ran well below form and the victory doesn't look anything special. For me all it shows is that RK can perform to a similar level at 3 miles cw her form over 2m4f. I don't think she will have advanced her peak RPR today and take the result as another positive for Telmesomethinggirl (and Heaven Help Us). With the chance of Royal Kahala skipping the fez if it's not soft or even running in the Stayers (which would be a daft decision IMO) I'm happy to keep topping up on Telmesomethinggirl after that.

                          It's worth bearing in mind that RK was comprehensively outpointed by Telmesomethinggirl at Cheltenham on the likely good-soft ground last March.

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                          • Originally posted by Moby123 View Post
                            Royal Kahala heavily cut for this after today's win. Ignoring the misfiring favourite who ran well below form and the victory doesn't look anything special. For me all it shows is that RK can perform to a similar level at 3 miles cw her form over 2m4f. I don't think she will have advanced her peak RPR today and take the result as another positive for Telmesomethinggirl (and Heaven Help Us). With the chance of Royal Kahala skipping the fez if it's not soft or even running in the Stayers (which would be a daft decision IMO) I'm happy to keep topping up on Telmesomethinggirl after that.

                            It's worth bearing in mind that RK was comprehensively outpointed by Telmesomethinggirl at Cheltenham on the likely good-soft ground last March.
                            I wouldn't be quite so confident that Telmesomethinggirl will confirm the Cheltenham form if they meet again in March Moby.

                            Firstly, the Mares Hurdle is over an extra 3 furlongs which will benefit Royal Kahala. She's now unbeaten in 3 races over 2m 4f or further.

                            Secondly, they held up Royal Kahala out the back at last year's Festival - and with the benefit of hindsight that was a big mistake as stamina is very much her strong suit.

                            This season she has raced much closer to the pace which makes her much more of a weapon.

                            But all of the above may be academic.

                            When they sit down and think about it I wouldn't be surprised if she has a crack at the Stayers Hurdle because imho she's a better horse at 3 miles than two-and-a-half.

                            Klassical Dream did fade tamely in the straight today but Royal Kahala seemed very comfortable travelling at that pace - while all the others began to feel the pinch either before or as they turned in.

                            Even though the other placed horses don't look special in form terms I'd rate that a career best today.

                            Tempted to take the 8-1 nrnb for the Stayers but haven't yet pulled the trigger. Probably not quite tempted enough even though I don't have a bet in the race.

                            Almost tempted to throw some cash at Champ without the Irish at 6-4 but it's not my kind of bet. Reckon that would be the way to the poor house for me.

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                            • Royal Kahala was lame in the mares novice last year.
                              Archie keeps reminding us, and now I am.

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                              • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
                                Royal Kahala was lame in the mares novice last year.
                                Archie keeps reminding us, and now I am.
                                Never got a proper answer why the book builders had TMSG and HHU but not her. She's beaten them both twice now. While she may not do it a third time, she surely has to be a contender.

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