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Albert Bartlett 2019

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  • Nice case, good bet.

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    • Originally posted by charlie View Post
      First bet on this. Derrinross @ 20/1 B365

      I know it's cliche but were he trained by Mullins or Elliot and not Philip Dempsey I think he would be a lot shorter. Other than At Fishers Cross and Bob's Worth this race tends to be a waste land for short priced favourites so happy to look away from the front of the market which includes quite a few Mullins/Elliot horses that remain untested over 3m. Derrinross is clearly enjoying his racing over 3m having won a Grade 3 at Cork beating Sams Profile who I thought ran well finishing second over too short a trip in the Lawlor's Of Naas Novice Hurdle. Derrinross then went on to win a Grade 2 over 3m giving weight away at Limerick beating Defi Bleu. Taken from Sportinglife 'The Limerick contest, registered as the Dorans Pride Novice Hurdle and formerly run at the Guiness Novice Hurdle, has produced a long list of high-class winners since its inception in 2003, with the likes of Weapon's Amnesty, Faugheen, Martello Tower, Up For Review and Penhill winning in recent season'.

      I debated backing this now as I don't think his price would be too different but Dempsey has said 'if he gets soft ground he could run at the Dublin Racing Festival', so I decided to get on now as he won't be under the radar with a good performance there. He'll want soft ground at Cheltenham, but this relatively unexposed imposing 7 year old is definitely a player so happy to take 20/1 with the the AB definitely being the plan.
      Nice one charlie. I think there's a few on this thread with the same opinion.

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      • Another form boost for Ask Ben there. Is he one of those “trained by a big trainer he’d be half the price” type of horse

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        • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
          Defeats the point of using units if you are talking about free bet values

          Good bet though, I think Kateson is over priced.
          Who said they are the same!?


          Ask Ben is an intriguing one and insupppse if you fancy him you’d have to look at danny whizzbang altho he won't be hitting the runs trend for sure

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          • Brewinupastorm looks Albert bartlett bound.
            He's not even priced up in this market which is surprising. I'd prefer him over kateson personally. And if he wins the river don you'd be looking at a round 10 or 12/1 max
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            • Looks a Ballymore horse to me all day long. Fast run 2 1/2. I’d expect to see him at Cheltenham this weekend, not Donny.

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              • He's a horse to look forward to. We'll probably go to Cheltenham in three weeks for Trials Day and then we'll probably go for the two-five race in March.
                What’s changed from this statement at the start of the month?

                Entered up in the ballymore trial as stated

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                • Mentioned here. https://betting.betfair.com/horse-ra...80119-801.html

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                  • Originally posted by Viking Flagship View Post
                    Looks a Ballymore horse to me all day long. Fast run 2 1/2. I’d expect to see him at Cheltenham this weekend, not Donny.
                    We will see. Can't see the point in running him in the ballymore . Hed have a decent chance in the Albert bartlett. They wouldn't enter him in the river don If he's nailed on to go ballymore
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                    • Originally posted by Hurricane fly View Post
                      What’s changed from this statement at the start of the month?

                      Entered up in the ballymore trial as stated
                      "Probably" the key word
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                      • Got him added at 33s 365 and 25s WH

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                        • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
                          We will see. Can't see the point in running him in the ballymore . Hed have a decent chance in the Albert bartlett. They wouldn't enter him in the river don If he's nailed on to go ballymore
                          What on earth makes you think this bit Scooby? As things stand I’d see no reason to think he’s any better chance in the AB than the Ballymore. I reckon it’s very dangerous to take that Champ formline too seriously. Brewin’ has a lot more to offer on that imo.

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                          • Originally posted by Viking Flagship View Post
                            What on earth makes you think this bit Scooby? As things stand I’d see no reason to think he’s any better chance in the AB than the Ballymore. I reckon it’s very dangerous to take that Champ formline too seriously. Brewin’ has a lot more to offer on that imo.
                            Because imo he was beat fair and square and stuck at the task well.
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                            • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
                              Because imo he was beat fair and square and stuck at the task well.
                              Although I agree he was beaten fair and square last time, I think they’ll want to get him in a truly run race over that trip before upping him in trip. Everything I’ve read and seen suggests the Ballymore has been the target all along. If he’s not good enough then I think they’d swerve Cheltenham altogether rather than bury him in the Albert Bartlett.

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                              • See Declan Rix in his ATR blog has given a mention to samburu Shujaa with this in mind. Don’t know a lot about him, is he worth looking into? Only priced up in a couple of places, 66/1 with skybet

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