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  • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
    Very happy to see Marie's Rock return to some sort of form!
    They'll probably fancy the Stayers again after that.

    First opinion is that her speed won it though and it wasn't a strong staying test but no facts to back it up
    She’s not entered Kev. And now looks to have a monster to contend with. I wonder if they’d consider bypassing now and going straight to Aintree?

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    • Originally posted by Rooster Booster View Post

      She’s not entered Kev. And now looks to have a monster to contend with. I wonder if they’d consider bypassing now and going straight to Aintree?
      Oh excellent, I'd missed that. Would love her in the Mares so almost certainly skips it

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      • They can supplement her if they want.........I think??

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        • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

          Think we need NRNB?

          Surely not going anywhere else? 33/1 worth it?

          Then again, I don't think Zarak The Brave would be single figures if he was allowed in the Mares Hurdle so not sure it was that good?



          Feel like I'm disagreeing with everything you've said in the last 24 hours - not personal I promise
          Game of opinions - discussion good

          More of an EW shout for me ….and personal pref re NRNB when I do ew

          Feels like it’s Lossie if she stays ….but happy enough with my main plays against being TMSG & Marie’s

          Henry brought TMSG along slowly like this last time should have won Mares when brought down …,looks like similar this time ….tho bit of heart in this too
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          • Originally posted by TigerRolllllll View Post

            Game of opinions - discussion good

            More of an EW shout for me ….and personal pref re NRNB when I do ew

            Feels like it’s Lossie if she stays ….but happy enough with my main plays against being TMSG & Marie’s

            Henry brought TMSG along slowly like this last time should have won Mares when brought down …,looks like similar this time ….tho bit of heart in this too
            Yeah I had 1 pt e/w at 35/1 with Ladbrokes early. 10 points bigger is worth the risk for me

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            • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
              They can supplement her if they want.........I think??
              Don’t think she really stays at that level ….today felt more like a 2.5m

              I hope she goes Mares as backed her ages ago at decent prices …..and think would have chance if Lossie doesn’t stay well
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              • Originally posted by TigerRolllllll View Post

                Don’t think she really stays at that level ….today felt more like a 2.5m

                I hope she goes Mares as backed her ages ago at decent prices …..and think would have chance if Lossie doesn’t stay well
                Not sure anything will want to take on Lossie.

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                • I’m going to stick my neck out, and ready to be shot down. I just don’t think Lossiemouth will stay, looking at her style of running. I think both her stablemates will go past her on the run in.
                  very classy, but fizzy and free running and not a stayer in my book.
                  if the mares hurdle was over 2m……..unbeatable

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                  • Originally posted by Guinness Village View Post
                    I’m going to stick my neck out, and ready to be shot down. I just don’t think Lossiemouth will stay, looking at her style of running. I think both her stablemates will go past her on the run in.
                    very classy, but fizzy and free running and not a stayer in my book.
                    if the mares hurdle was over 2m……..unbeatable
                    I think she is at least worth taking on at current prices

                    Lot may depend on ground & how race is run.....last year it was run slowly and suited speed horses, who actually were the ones that controlled the pace (less said about other jockeys that day the better)

                    If its soft/heavy....quite likely on Day 1.....and they got decent pace, then i think you might be right......it will def test her

                    Interesting that Rachael rode TSMG forward more today.....wonder if that's with half an eye to March? As not the way that horse is known to like, but Rachael is prob the most tactically aware of current jockeys, so could be a plan

                    We also know Maries stays it well....so maybe Nico will rider her more for stamina this time....as might some of the other jockeys, who can't ride as badly as they did last year
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                    • Hard to compare the two but everyone was saying very similar to Constitution Hill regarding going up in trip, thinking he'd be classy enough to run over any trip, and he disappointed (by his very lofty standards) over the extra half mile. There is obviously a question mark on trip which you have to take into account, anyone saying otherwise is just wrong IMO.

                      Still worthy favourite though, clearly the best horse in the race. And as much as I hate to say it, I agree on them sending her to the mares hurdle.

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                      • …Marie’s Rock;

                        We were delighted she was able to get her head back in front there, we don’t necessarily see her as an out-and-out three-miler and that’s probably not her championship distance,” said Tom Palin of syndicate owners Middleham Park Racing.

                        “We will keep her to the mares’ races, but she’s not ineffective at these sorts of distances and against the opposition today she was able to take advantage of that in what looked a good opportunity to get her head back in front.

                        “She has been running some very creditable races in defeat, she’s a tough, game mare. She carries her head a bit awkwardly, a bit in the ‘Marie’s Rock style’ but James said when You Wear It Well came to her she wasn’t going to lay down and she toughed it out.

                        “It takes a very good one to go past her, I thought the writing was on the wall with that performance behind Bob Olinger – he looked resurgent, the Bob Olinger of old, and I felt we lost nothing in defeat to him.

                        “I was delighted that she was able to confirm her place at the Cheltenham Festival, obviously life has got a little bit harder in the last 24 hours with Lossiemouth looking like the proverbial second coming!

                        “We’ve booked our ticket for the mares’ race anyway and we’ll head down that route.”

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                        • I have no doubts she will stay 2m4. They didn't go fast yesterday and she wasn't keen. She can go that pace for another 3 furlongs no bother. If they go no pace, she'll destroy them coming off the bend so something is going to have to set a decent enough pace.

                          Not backed anything in this and doubt I will now until we see final decs.

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                          • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
                            I'm no Nicky Henderson but Lossiemouth is probably the best looking horse I've seen.
                            I sense a new impending Lobos love affair

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                            • Originally posted by Eggs View Post
                              …Marie’s Rock;

                              We were delighted she was able to get her head back in front there, we don’t necessarily see her as an out-and-out three-miler and that’s probably not her championship distance,” said Tom Palin of syndicate owners Middleham Park Racing.

                              “We will keep her to the mares’ races, but she’s not ineffective at these sorts of distances and against the opposition today she was able to take advantage of that in what looked a good opportunity to get her head back in front.

                              “She has been running some very creditable races in defeat, she’s a tough, game mare. She carries her head a bit awkwardly, a bit in the ‘Marie’s Rock style’ but James said when You Wear It Well came to her she wasn’t going to lay down and she toughed it out.

                              “It takes a very good one to go past her, I thought the writing was on the wall with that performance behind Bob Olinger – he looked resurgent, the Bob Olinger of old, and I felt we lost nothing in defeat to him.

                              “I was delighted that she was able to confirm her place at the Cheltenham Festival, obviously life has got a little bit harder in the last 24 hours with Lossiemouth looking like the proverbial second coming!

                              “We’ve booked our ticket for the mares’ race anyway and we’ll head down that route.”
                              That is sensational reading as a Marie's Rock / Dashel Drasher backer

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                              • ….Maries Rock 18-1 NRNB in Hills specials.

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