General Chat

[Zachx02]

Only just started looking at handicaps with start of NRNB.....finally kept my promise to myself to wait til now

But value seems to be as shocking as in the ante-post markets generally

Do people think there is much point in betting on these chaps much before.....when hopefully, market competition will drive value and offers in last week and on day? At least on the exchanges if nowhere else

Sure i will do some.....but struggling at mo to place my first cap bet

There are some OK prices in there, which are being mentioned in the members section

[DenmanSacre]

Only just started looking at handicaps with start of NRNB.....finally kept my promise to myself to wait til now

But value seems to be as shocking as in the ante-post markets generally

Do people think there is much point in betting on these chaps much before.....when hopefully, market competition will drive value and offers in last week and on day? At least on the exchanges if nowhere else

Sure i will do some.....but struggling at mo to place my first cap bet

At least with B365 it's BOG.

Most horses are terrible value though. The Boodles market in particular is a joke compared to the market on the day.

There's a few on my shortlists who aren't in the betting yet for the race I want them in and I'm guessing they'll be a better price after entries (assuming they are entered) than they would be if I requested a price.

[Saxon Warrior]

Only just started looking at handicaps with start of NRNB.....finally kept my promise to myself to wait til now 

But value seems to be as shocking as in the ante-post markets generally 

Do people think there is much point in betting on these chaps much before.....when hopefully, market competition will drive value and offers in last week and on day? At least on the exchanges if nowhere else

Sure i will do some.....but struggling at mo to place my first cap bet

Prices are generally awful, as far as I can see at first trawl through.

Haven't been impressed enough to back anything.

Could stay that way until we actually find out who is entered in each race, rather than just guessing.

[Dandrew99]

anyone coming to chelts tomorrow? Happy to get the first round of the black gold. Arkle bar 11.30?

I'll be there tomorrow Arkle bar is usually the first stop although I might be meeting Spectre. Shame we don't have our FJ badges!

[TigerRolllllll]

Prices are generally awful, as far as I can see at first trawl through.

Haven't been impressed enough to back anything.

Could stay that way until we actually find out who is entered in each race, rather than just guessing.

Suppose if we are honest, then we have had a pretty good ride over past few years....and many people on here have made some very healthy margins on festival each year....so can't really blame bookies for tightening things up

Be interesting what profit (or not) margins are like for people this year....and if bookies have over-done the odds cuts

Personally, its more about engagement with the spot as a hobby that matters.....and maybe its a way of telling me i need a new plan on handicaps

[Quevega]

No idea what you're both looking at.
There are masses of horses that will go off much shorter should they run.

It's the same principle as when starting the season for many of the graded races.

You're simply looking for likely runners, and likely winners at bigger prices than SP.
Going on all the evidence we have.

Don't need to list the things that you look for as clues.
As all are similar to those applied to the graded races.

But this time you have the safety net of NRNB. A massive edge.
Most bets are guesswork.
But this is guessing with less risk. Give or take the odd runner available at bigger nearer the day.
Let's face it, getting a run for your money is a bonus when betting antepost.

[fatherjohn]

there's definitely some better prices i think with the other firms jumping in.

First look I've gone for
capodanmo 6s with hills nhc
ptko 12s with hills mares chase
concertista 4s with hills mares hurdles
a few combinations of mullins horses in arkle/turners
tiger 9/2 365 Cross Country
Mercury 11/2 365 bumper (too proud to bet him before the race )

also cashed out a few handicap bets and rebet nrnb. lost a few points of profit but its still early enough to get a decent price

[Kevloaf]

I'll be there tomorrow Arkle bar is usually the first stop although I might be meeting Spectre. Shame we don't have our FJ badges!

Not in my possession yet.....

[Kevloaf]

Mercury 11/2 365 bumper (too proud to bet him before the race )

I tried

[Nwfb89]

When did William Hill go nrmb was it today? And can anyone confirm it is proper nrmb as I remember one year where they had some thing about money back but it was only if your horse ran in a different race

[Kevloaf]

When did William Hill go nrmb was it today? And can anyone confirm it is proper nrmb as I remember one year where they had some thing about money back but it was only if your horse ran in a different race

Best place to check on here...

https://www.fatjockey.com/forum/fat-...e12#post350615

[Nwfb89]

Thanks Kevloaf, I must have been reading that thread with my eyes close earlier and missed that

[ToniC]

I’ve not found some of the prices too bad in the handicaps. Think the handicap chases are worth your time more than the hurdles, they’re the real NKFA markets that readily deliver 25/1+ winners on the day. Taken a swing at a few today but trying to remain slightly reserved still. Absolutely nothing is grabbing my attention in the Martin pipe market at a price I’d want to be a backer at though.

[Eggs]

…free ?5 from 365 for today at Cheltenham.

[Carnage at Taunton]

Probably to save the ground for March. I don't know. Strange decision.

Yeah, way I look at it, if you water to try and get safe ground for the festival, then why not do it at your other meetings?
Dont seem right to me .