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Queen Mother Champion Chase 2021

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  • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post
    I cant have that at all tbh

    No way is she a 170+ performer imo

    We have absolutely no evidence that shows that, shes beaten al dancer, fakir and duc de genievres

    But its a game of opinions I suppose
    Only needs to hit 163 with mares allowance

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    • Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post

      How ignorant the likes of Hendo are to think it’s solely the horse that he needs to think about.

      Yes, it’s his main priority, but to sit on his ass all week and say nothing about Altior’s run being ground-dependent whilst punters poured their cash on to the horse, is unforgivable.

      He should know where prize-money comes from, punters cash funds the levy (not bookmakers, they only have our lost money), the genpops cash funds the firms of race sponsors and corporate hospitality at racecourses, and also pays for the racecourse gate receipts (when we are allowed in).

      He needs to get with the programme in the 21st century, and keep people informed if he has a plan to withdraw if the ground is worse than soft.

      Then.............to withdraw the horse when the ground wasn’t bad, but insist when interviewed, that it was bad ........
      put the sickly cherry on a very icky sicky cake that he served the public in the last 24 hours.
      I've found this with the racing community in general to be honest, particularly on this side of the channel, that they appear to look down their nose at the punters and always found Henderson to be one of the worst for that

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      • Originally posted by Dessie the great View Post

        Only needs to hit 163 with mares allowance
        Yes, a good few LBS of improvement needed to get there

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        • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

          Yes, a good few LBS of improvement needed to get there
          7lbs officially, bit only a 6 yr old with 7 chase runs so you would imagine that is possible.

          Indeed the average OR is 168 for the last 10 years so she would only have 6lbs to find officially in a normal year
          Last edited by Dessie the great; 5 December 2020, 09:10 PM.

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          • Originally posted by Dessie the great View Post

            7lbs officially, bit only a 6 yr old with 7 chase runs so you would imagine that is possible.

            Indeed the average OR is 168 for the last 10 years so she would only have 6lbs to find officially in a normal year
            Hopefully she takes on a politologue or another good yardstick next race so we can find out more

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            • Do you think she needs to run to 163/170 with the allowance? Official rating for Politologue last year was 165.

              Only saying this on the basis of Chacun and Altior perhaps not making it like last year, I know she would need a rating of around 170 to be competitive with them.

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              • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

                Hopefully she takes on a politologue or another good yardstick next race so we can find out more
                Trainer quoted as saying she is going Kempton next so might meet Altior if Nicky turns up

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                • Originally posted by Joeski29 View Post
                  Do you think she needs to run to 163/170 with the allowance? Official rating for Politologue last year was 165.

                  Only saying this on the basis of Chacun and Altior perhaps not making it like last year, I know she would need a rating of around 170 to be competitive with them.
                  It would be normal for a second season nobice to improve 7 or 8 lbs during their second season

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                  • Originally posted by Dessie the great View Post

                    Trainer quoted as saying she is going Kempton next so might meet Altior if Nicky turns up
                    Altior might run as long as the ground doesn't have any soft or firm in the description

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                    • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

                      Altior might run as long as the ground doesn't have any soft or firm in the description
                      Or Good or Heavy
                      "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                      • Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post

                        How ignorant the likes of Hendo are to think it’s solely the horse that he needs to think about.

                        Yes, it’s his main priority, but to sit on his ass all week and say nothing about Altior’s run being ground-dependent whilst punters poured their cash on to the horse, is unforgivable.

                        He should know where prize-money comes from, punters cash funds the levy (not bookmakers, they only have our lost money), the genpops cash funds the firms of race sponsors and corporate hospitality at racecourses, and also pays for the racecourse gate receipts (when we are allowed in).

                        He needs to get with the programme in the 21st century, and keep people informed if he has a plan to withdraw if the ground is worse than soft.

                        Then.............to withdraw the horse when the ground wasn’t bad, but insist when interviewed, that it was bad ........
                        put the sickly cherry on a very icky sicky cake that he served the public in the last 24 hours.
                        I couldn’t have put this better myself. And if you have complete disregard make the excuses plausible. Nicolls annoys me with his comments sometimes, but I was pleased he outed him.
                        Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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                        • I have a confession...

                          I've just spent the last 45 minutes looking at Battleoverdoyen for the.... one second, do I really want to say this..... yes..... the Queen Mother... OMFG

                          I really need to suspend my betting accounts, go to bed and stop wasting my life on trying to get the top 5 in the QM better beaten!

                          For me... I dont think this horse stays, he looks like a cruiser to me

                          Was ridden wide in the RSA, most likely looking for better ground. Ran well within himself for most of the way until he got to the hill on the run in, had nothing left

                          He appeared to have shocked the world by winning LTO, but shown enough for me to suggest a drop down in trip could do the trick

                          Ryanair most likely target, but pleasantly surprised to see that he's been priced up for the QM - maybe I'm not the only fool out there. How can Mr Slow Boat be a QM horse, dont ask!!!

                          My predictor for tomorrow, Battle will travel really well into the race but then blow up 2 furlongs out - I dont think he'll like this testing ground in a hot race, GE will be like "I need to send Usian Bolt to the QM"... turns up in March and wins!

                          I'm backing him. 0.5pts @ 55/1 on exchange - dont hate, how can you hate, I've just donated to 'charity'

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                          • I will say I was very pleasantly surprised with BOD's show of speed LTO. I had always marked him out as a one paced boat, but he looked nimble the last day.

                            Couldn't back him for less than three figure odds atm as I feel he won't run at the festival at all but I think he'd be an interesting shout for the Ryanair. A lot might weigh on Samcro and their plans for him or if he goes off the boil this year.
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                            • Looking forward to seeing how Chosen Mate runs against Chacun today. On a line through Greaneteen, who he beat comfortably in The Grand Annual , Chosen Mate has every chance of being competitive in the Champion Chase. He's likely to need the race after having time off with a nasty cut picked up in his last race but I think he'll still put up a decent performance.

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                              • Originally posted by opatcho View Post
                                I have a confession...

                                I've just spent the last 45 minutes looking at Battleoverdoyen for the.... one second, do I really want to say this..... yes..... the Queen Mother... OMFG

                                I really need to suspend my betting accounts, go to bed and stop wasting my life on trying to get the top 5 in the QM better beaten!

                                For me... I dont think this horse stays, he looks like a cruiser to me

                                Was ridden wide in the RSA, most likely looking for better ground. Ran well within himself for most of the way until he got to the hill on the run in, had nothing left

                                He appeared to have shocked the world by winning LTO, but shown enough for me to suggest a drop down in trip could do the trick

                                Ryanair most likely target, but pleasantly surprised to see that he's been priced up for the QM - maybe I'm not the only fool out there. How can Mr Slow Boat be a QM horse, dont ask!!!

                                My predictor for tomorrow, Battle will travel really well into the race but then blow up 2 furlongs out - I dont think he'll like this testing ground in a hot race, GE will be like "I need to send Usian Bolt to the QM"... turns up in March and wins!

                                I'm backing him. 0.5pts @ 55/1 on exchange - dont hate, how can you hate, I've just donated to 'charity'
                                I just don’t see BOD have anywhere near enough pace to be in contention as the come to the bottom of the hill

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