2022 Albert Bartlett Novices Hurdle

[Hurdles or chasing]

But that would mean Gordon was essentially conning his richest owner and yard sponsor? Seems a bit of a stretch that he’d get them to overpay for an average horse. I’m not saying Ginto will be top class but Gordon needs to keep his owners happy surely?

To be fair, I wouldn’t know about the dark arts involved in the point game so there could be some validity to it.

Also heard that rumour. No idea if its true. Initial thought would be the same as yours, richest owner and yard sponsor. Surely he couldn't be that stupid....oh wait

[The King Pimm]

But that would mean Gordon was essentially conning his richest owner and yard sponsor? Seems a bit of a stretch that he’d get them to overpay for an average horse. I’m not saying Ginto will be top class but Gordon needs to keep his owners happy surely?

To be fair, I wouldn’t know about the dark arts involved in the point game so there could be some validity to it.

Only rumours I heard and read Jackie. I don’t know if there is any truth in it and agree it would be a daft thing to do given the investment the Morans have made but given what Elliot has been caught doing not that long ago it wouldn’t surprise me. That said he is brilliant at getting his horses primed for Cheltenham so maybe Ginto will live up to his hefty price tag but he needs to improve a lot

[riccirich]

Only rumours I heard and read Jackie. I don’t know if there is any truth in it and agree it would be a daft thing to do given the investment the Morans have made but given what Elliot has been caught doing not that long ago it wouldn’t surprise me. That said he is brilliant at getting his horses primed for Cheltenham so maybe Ginto will live up to his hefty price tag but he needs to improve a lot

Wouldn't surprise me at all if its true, the morans have been shelling out huge sums on a lot of very average horses so it may be that money is not much of an issue to them and elliott thought he might as well take advantage too. I mean its not as if he can be "caught out", he can just say that the horse hasn't progressed like he thought if ginto turns out to be not great and the morans couldn't really say anything, promising horses regress all the time.

[somer1]

Wouldn't surprise me at all if its true, the morans have been shelling out huge sums on a lot of very average horses so it may be that money is not much of an issue to them and elliott thought he might as well take advantage too. I mean its not as if he can be "caught out", he can just say that the horse hasn't progressed like he thought if ginto turns out to be not great and the morans couldn't really say anything, promising horses regress all the time.

Cant see it myself. Hes had his ass smacked so if true the only training he would be doing is on Weston Super Mare beach with me and me West Country Cousin as jockeys.

[The King Pimm]

Cant see it myself. Hes had his ass smacked so if true the only training he would be doing is on Weston Super Mare beach with me and me West Country Cousin as jockeys.

I think many of Elliot’s misdemeanours and dodgy dealings were done before he got banned and he didn’t appeal or complain about his ban so I’m guessing he thought it best to take it on the chin and do his time.

that said he will be under a lot of pressure to reward the Morans investment and support so you can guarantee he will pull out all the stops to ensure they do well at the next Festival so I’ll be back all their runners under his name

[Sprinter Sacre]

Kyntara running tomorrow, could be of interest here.

[Lobos]

Cant see it myself. Hes had his ass smacked so if true the only training he would be doing is on Weston Super Mare beach with me and me West Country Cousin as jockeys.

Good old Weston Super Mud

[Milbear0]

Good old Weston Super Mud

That’s my local track!

[Frankely My Dear]

Cash out has been removed from my Gringo bet in this, does anyone know why this might be, is he out??

[Winging The Last]

I know its slightly left field by could Idas Boy be a horse for Gigginstown in this race. He runs tomorrow over 3m in a novice at Thurles. Second season novice with 1 win this season over 3m.

Gigginstown love to have runners in this race, they have had at least one runner every year since 2013, mostly having at least 2 runners. I don't think there will be a huge amount of other horses they could send here which are novices and are already being campaigned over 3m.

Looks like he will go off as one of the favourites tomorrow off a RPR of 130. However he isn't priced up anywhere yet for the AB

[ComplyOrDie]

I know its slightly left field by could Idas Boy be a horse for Gigginstown in this race. He runs tomorrow over 3m in a novice at Thurles. Second season novice with 1 win this season over 3m.

Gigginstown love to have runners in this race, they have had at least one runner every year since 2013, mostly having at least 2 runners. I don't think there will be a huge amount of other horses they could send here which are novices and are already being campaigned over 3m.

Looks like he will go off as one of the favourites tomorrow off a RPR of 130. However he isn't priced up anywhere yet for the AB

Could be an interesting shout that WTL. Will keep my eyes peeled on the performance and hopefully for a price too.

[Silverbirch]

So I'm trying to work out who's Willie's AB horse this year.
Bit of a minefield but here goes.

Kilcruit - looks to be Supreme bound Sir Gerhard - has been name checked for Ballymore
State man - little to go on but breeding suggests a shorter trip
Grangeclare West - "shorter trip" has been said
Grangee - I'd imagine the MNH will be her target
Bring on the night - not enough information/comments
Olympic man - same as above
Whatdeawant - potentially going chasing.
Hubrisko - I'd imagine supreme or Ballymore

Which leaves 3 for me;

Dark Raven - Sounds more like he's a surprise rather than expectation. Although Willie's has said he's one for the staying hurdles I'm not entirely convinced, and looks more speedy to my eye 25/1

Classic Getaway - Huge price tag, Huge colours to wear. Patrick said he's more of a stayer, I liked his last run and was barely tapped. There's obvious risk here of the Bumper or the shorter trips but he's as short as 14/1 elsewhere so 25/1 is fair enough for me.

Ramillies - He's an absolute myth to Willie by the sounds of it. Willie talks about him like he's one of his best at home. Who am I to question him. Hes been pretty rubbish so far on the track. He said he'll be aimed at staying hurdlers this season, I have no doubt this will be his target. For me, it's a bit skinny at 33/1 but a decent risk.

[Winging The Last]

So I'm trying to work out who's Willie's AB horse this year.
Bit of a minefield but here goes.

Kilcruit - looks to be Supreme bound Sir Gerhard - has been name checked for Ballymore
State man - little to go on but breeding suggests a shorter trip
Grangeclare West - "shorter trip" has been said
Grangee - I'd imagine the MNH will be her target
Bring on the night - not enough information/comments
Olympic man - same as above
Whatdeawant - potentially going chasing.
Hubrisko - I'd imagine supreme or Ballymore

Which leaves 3 for me;

Dark Raven - Sounds more like he's a surprise rather than expectation. Although Willie's has said he's one for the staying hurdles I'm not entirely convinced, and looks more speedy to my eye 25/1

Classic Getaway - Huge price tag, Huge colours to wear. Patrick said he's more of a stayer, I liked his last run and was barely tapped. There's obvious risk here of the Bumper or the shorter trips but he's as short as 14/1 elsewhere so 25/1 is fair enough for me.

Ramillies - He's an absolute myth to Willie by the sounds of it. Willie talks about him like he's one of his best at home. Who am I to question him. Hes been pretty rubbish so far on the track. He said he'll be aimed at staying hurdlers this season, I have no doubt this will be his target. For me, it's a bit skinny at 33/1 but a decent risk.

Yeah with Dark Raven Willie was very contradictory in his quotes. In the Sporting Life he said a stayer then in the RP he has plenty of speed

Dark Raven
4g Malinas - Mary Wilkie
Simon Munir & Isaac Souede
11-
RPR 130b OR -
He was a little surprise package last season, having been led out unsold at €17,000 at the Derby Sale. It shows that people can find horses like that even on a budget. He looks a nice novice with plenty of speed. We'll see how his jumping technique is before finalising a trip for him.

The other 2 Ramillies and CG I can see coming here

[Istabraq]

I’d struggle to back a 5yo to win the potato race, not even a French bred with 3 years racing behind him…

[Parachute Paddy]

Letsbeclearaboutit had a setback and won’t be out until spring as per RP stable tour. Think a few were keen on him for this, myself included.