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2022 Stayers Hurdle

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  • 2022 Stayers Hurdle

    Prices at 23/3/21

    Flooring Porter 7/1
    Thyme Hill 12/1
    Sire du Berlais 16/1
    Paisley Park 16/1
    Vanillier 20/1
    Duffel Coat 25/1
    Champ 25/1
    Roksana 33/1
    Lisnagar Oscar 33/1
    Last edited by Istabraq; 6 October 2021, 02:28 PM.

  • #2
    BETTING NEWSFLASH

    Flooring Porter

    The 12/1 offered by Bet365 has finally been eaten up, and now its 10/1
    "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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    • #3
      Very, very surprised it's lasted this long. Was hugely impressive in winning this March. Absolutely destroyed them.

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      • #4
        But Klassical Dream surely comes here doesn't he? Setting price and value to one side for a moment, and if the race was this afternoon which camp would you be in? And what about Thyme Hill? Very fashionable last season before being pulled out, but nobody seems that interested in him this season?

        I know Willie's first reaction was fences for KD after Punchestown, but I think everyone pretty much thinks he stays over hurdles. Has anyone heard any noises from Patrick or Ruby?

        I've mentioned previously I wonder if Flooring Porter is the same horse if taken on for the lead. That said 12/1 and now 10/1 has been and is one of the standout prices available.

        Thyme Hill on paper may actually be the more solid/safer option of the three?
        Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Spectre View Post
          But Klassical Dream surely comes here doesn't he? Setting price and value to one side for a moment, and if the race was this afternoon which camp would you be in? And what about Thyme Hill? Very fashionable last season before being pulled out, but nobody seems that interested in him this season?

          I know Willie's first reaction was fences for KD after Punchestown, but I think everyone pretty much thinks he stays over hurdles. Has anyone heard any noises from Patrick or Ruby?

          I've mentioned previously I wonder if Flooring Porter is the same horse if taken on for the lead. That said 12/1 and now 10/1 has been and is one of the standout prices available.

          Thyme Hill on paper may actually be the more solid/safer option of the three?
          I like Thyme Hill too Spectre. Can’t understand the negativity behind him to be honest.

          Surely can’t dismiss the form with Paisley Park, who after some issues, still managed to place in the stayers not all that far behind Flooring Porter.

          Only thing I can think of is price, but right now I wouldn’t look past those 3.

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          • #6
            ….no idea of plans or trainer quotes but I’ll throw Vanillier into the mix given how it handled Cheltenham. After winning an Albert Bartlett by 11 lengths, 33-1 in a place seems big to me given it’s as low as 16-1 elsewhere.
            Last edited by Eggs; 6 October 2021, 11:02 AM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Craigy14 View Post

              I like Thyme Hill too Spectre. Can’t understand the negativity behind him to be honest.

              Surely can’t dismiss the form with Paisley Park, who after some issues, still managed to place in the stayers not all that far behind Flooring Porter.

              Only thing I can think of is price, but right now I wouldn’t look past those 3.
              I'm put off by the fact he's trained by Phillip hobbs and not in Ireland !

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Eggs View Post
                ….no idea of plans or trainer quotes but I’ll throw Vanillier into the mix given how it handled Cheltenham. After winning an Albert Bartlett by 11 lengths, 33-1 in a place seems big to me given it’s as low as 16-1 elsewhere.
                I seen it quoted from Cromwell last week that he is going chasing. Haven't seen the article but I have a few credible sources on twitter reporting it. Flooring Porter also being aimed at the Stayers once again.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Spectre View Post
                  Thyme Hill on paper may actually be the more solid/safer option of the three?
                  Not a huge Thyme Hill fan, at least not for the festival anyway, maybe it's the trainer, I honestly don't know. He won't have the aid of Richard Johnson anymore either, surely a negative?

                  His Cheltenham form is solid, though I think he just lacks that little bit required to be winning, unless the race breaks up.

                  I think the Irish hold the key, so it would take Klassical Dream and Flooring Porter not turning up to cause me to re-think backing him at his current price (which he wouldn't be if they were both NR's). I have him in the Aintree special that someone pointed out before he won there, so it's not as if I don't have him covered for the race anyway, but he wouldn't be in my top two currently.

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                  • #10
                    I like Klassical Dream and clearly he has course form in the book as well as that Punchestown performance fresh in the memory. However with the question mark over whether he stays hurdling or not and his price being as short 4/1 in places I’ve no interest in backing him now.

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                    • #11
                      Nutjob Klassical Dream has to be the worst priced horse out there imo. Not for me at all !

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                        Not a huge Thyme Hill fan, at least not for the festival anyway, maybe it's the trainer, I honestly don't know. He won't have the aid of Richard Johnson anymore either, surely a negative?

                        His Cheltenham form is solid, though I think he just lacks that little bit required to be winning, unless the race breaks up.

                        I think the Irish hold the key, so it would take Klassical Dream and Flooring Porter not turning up to cause me to re-think backing him at his current price (which he wouldn't be if they were both NR's). I have him in the Aintree special that someone pointed out before he won there, so it's not as if I don't have him covered for the race anyway, but he wouldn't be in my top two currently.
                        Thyme Hill is about the same horse as Roksana on their races last year.
                        I just dont think thats enough, unless the race falls into becoming a average one or less.
                        "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                        • #13
                          Paisley Park may start in B365 Hurdle at Wetherby this month and likely to stay over Hurdles for time being.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                            Paisley Park may start in B365 Hurdle at Wetherby this month and likely to stay over Hurdles for time being.
                            That's surprising Lobos. I thought the plan was to go chasing with him.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Fouroverthrutwo View Post

                              That's surprising Lobos. I thought the plan was to go chasing with him.
                              Sounds like they've changed their minds. Seemed a stupid idea anyway.

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