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Altior is not in the 5 top rated 2 mile chasers this century.
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Altior is a great in the record books but as ive said, he’s very lucky to be around in this poor division. Not trying to take anything away from him but he’s taken over from Special Tiara. Best horse he’d ran against before Cyrname was Un Des Sceaux who’s clearly not an out and out 2 miler. It’s not harsh to say he’s won all his grade ones against average opposition.Comment
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Who has been rated higher Archie?
I'd guess at:
Moscow Flyer
Azertyuiop
Master Minded
Sprinter Sacre
Sizing Europe
He would have been rated higher if the oppo was around to test him thoughComment
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Well Chief as well. Personally, I don't think he would have beaten any of the other six but we'll never know.Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post
The 1983 Champion Chase was my first on course and I've been there for every one since. I don't have Altior in my top ten unless I allow him a late tie with Pearlyman and Barnbrook Again.Comment
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He is not as flashy those above but I don't remember a horse relish the hill as much as he does.Originally posted by archie View Post
Personally, I'd have him above Sizing Europe and probably Azertyuiop.Comment
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Altior well above SE in my view. F Rainbow beat SE ffs. Big Zeb also in or about SE level imo.Originally posted by Kautothegreat8 View PostComment
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I feel like Altior could have produced a bigger number (OR) than he did if there were better horses around but while that isn't his fault it does mean we just don't really know how top, his top form was.
I'd have loved to see him charging up the hill behind any of those other legendary two milers mentioned.
Sprinter Sacre is the best and most exciting chaser I've seen (which only really goes back to Masterminded) - to win it as impressivly as he did, then miss the next festival, PU in the one after that then come back to put the mighty Un De Sceaux away continues to look absolutely extraordinary.
Love this division though, so much better than any hurdles race
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Also love this race so gentleman after pages of debating “ who’s the greatest “ can we please get back to Festival 2020?
Does DDS run here ?Comment
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That is something nobody can answer with certainty Humble.Originally posted by Humble Pie View Post
He's being campaigned like it, but they know he stays further. Le Richbourg is still to return, who knows the level of open company form he can produce. If it's good enough they might try splitting them.Comment
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Good weekend on the lash Kauto ?Originally posted by Kautothegreat8 View PostYes but Douvan destroys them all
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:Originally posted by jack1092 View Post
No such thing as a certainty Jacko
Just look at first 2 races yesterday in Ireland
My pocket says Ryanair but head in shed is saying here atm
Agree on LRComment
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Not if that's all there is to discussOriginally posted by Humble Pie View Post
Where does defi run. Jeeeeesus. I can't wait to log in later to see the same regurgitated comments from a week or so back.
Long live the forum.
We can also discuss where Envoi Allen goes in the Ballymore thread, I'm not sure that's been done to death yet?
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DODOOriginally posted by Kevloaf View PostNot if that's all there is to discuss
Where does defi run. Jeeeeesus. I can't wait to log in later to see the same regurgitated comments from a week or so back.
Long live the forum.
We can also discuss where Envoi Allen goes in the Ballymore thread, I'm not sure that's been done to death yet?
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