Cheltenham Handicap Shortlists

[BigChaang]

You are absolutely right, but it does only take one 25/1 winner to land and you're putting yourself in a good position for the week.

As we're about to get to the stage that most handicaps get their own threads, what bets have we already had?

Ultima
Coo Star Sivola 45/1
Talkischeap 25/1
The Worlds End (any race) 28/1

Close Brothers - No bet

Coral Cup
The Storyteller (any race) 18/1

Fred Winter
Fenta Des Obeaux (any race) 36/1

Pertemps - No bet

Brown Plate - No bet

Kim Muir
Glenloe - 22/1

County Hurdle - No bet

Martin Pipe - No Bet

Grand Annual - No Bet


You've got to be concerned if you've had more bets than me

That'll be me then Kevloaf , Too many to list , but done Ultima ,Close bros , pertemps and F winter , all decent prices
Small stakes , trying to nail a decent price winner , Probably fail though like every
other year !!.

[Quevega]

What price Thosedaysaregone for the Martin Pipe if he wins tomorrow ?

[Quevega]

Noticed B365 gone from 33's to 12's for Blow by Blow for KIm Muir.
might be nothing, but have bet with Sky nrnb 16-1.

[charlie]

Noticed B365 gone from 33's to 12's for Blow by Blow for KIm Muir.
might be nothing, but have bet with Sky nrnb 16-1.

Cheers for the heads up. Glad I went the any race route as well as NHC

[Scooby91]

Noticed B365 gone from 33's to 12's for Blow by Blow for KIm Muir.
might be nothing, but have bet with Sky nrnb 16-1.

I hope so. Wouldn't fancy him in the 4 miler. But I'd give him a decent chance in the Kim Muir.

[Kevloaf]

Noticed B365 gone from 33's to 12's for Blow by Blow for KIm Muir.
might be nothing, but have bet with Sky nrnb 16-1.

I've added 16/1 as well.

Looks a good spot for him if his mark is right.

[Arkle]

Going to add Wonder laish for the county 20/1

[Outlaw]

Going to add Wonder laish for the county 20/1

Mentioned him a few weeks back mark may be in the 140s now but with Davy on his back would have a very good chance if going here, not got an entry in the betfair which is good just need to see if he holds one in the ryanair hurdle at Lepo fez as his trainer stated he will have one big race to go for then back on the flat in the back end of the summer etc.

[Arkle]

Good turn of foot like it a lot worth a poke at that price

[ComplyOrDie]

Noticed B365 gone from 33's to 12's for Blow by Blow for KIm Muir.
might be nothing, but have bet with Sky nrnb 16-1.

Also cut him for the Plate as I noted a week or so ago.

Still struggle to see him as a 3m horse.

[archie]

I still don't get the love for Blow By Blow. I don't think he's run anywhere near to 143 over fences so, if you factor in the Irish handicap penalty:
1. he wouldn't get in the 0-145s
2. as you need to be a good few pounds ahead of the handicapper to win a Festival handicap, he'd have to improve about a stone.

You couldn't exclude him from the NH Chase until you saw the entries (this week I think) but the trend is towards needing to be a 145 to 150 horse to win that.

[Kevloaf]

I still don't get the love for Blow By Blow. I don't think he's run anywhere near to 143 over fences so, if you factor in the Irish handicap penalty:
1. he wouldn't get in the 0-145s
2. as you need to be a good few pounds ahead of the handicapper to win a Festival handicap, he'd have to improve about a stone.

You couldn't exclude him from the NH Chase until you saw the entries (this week I think) but the trend is towards needing to be a 145 to 150 horse to win that.

He's a festival winner, trained by Gordon Elliott, who has been leading trainer for the past two Cheltenham Festivals... maybe you've not heard of him

He hasn't shown good enough form this year to be winning anything, but I think the love comes from the very obvious case that he's been there and done it... so deserves respect wherever they plot him.

The previous roll of honour from the Martin Pipe also lends itself to thinking he'd be better over further, although you can't hang your hat on that.

[charlie]

He's a festival winner, trained by Gordon Elliott, who has been leading trainer for the past two Cheltenham Festivals... maybe you've not heard of him

He hasn't shown good enough form this year to be winning anything, but I think the love comes from the very obvious case that he's been there and done it... so deserves respect wherever they plot him.

The previous roll of honour from the Martin Pipe also lends itself to thinking he'd be better over further, although you can't hang your hat on that.

I couldn't have responded to Archie's post any better. Well said

[Al Ferof]

I have to agree with that regarding Blow By Blow. Festival form and grade 1 form (albeit Bumper grade 1 form) are blue chip in my opinion and wherever this guy ends up, I’d have a little flutter on him.

I think the 4 miler would really help his jumping too as the pace should be a little easier, but clearly has stamina to prove if that ended up his target.

Just looking through his form though, there does seem a clear difference between his performances on soft versus quicker surfaces

[boopa]

His festival form is on soft. I think he's quite ground dependent.