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Arkle 2018

No problems, dont blame me when its all a load of tosh though!!! It did come from their mouths though!
 
PP have "Grand Sancy" priced up at 20's for the Triumph
 
billymag said:
No problems, dont blame me when its all a load of tosh though!!! It did come from their mouths though!
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Good man. Shoot the messanger haha

I'm really excited about Lough Derg Spirit. He disappointed I the end didn't he but the way he took a hurdle, if he can translate that to a fence he might be gaining lengths at each fence ... wish would be a bonus in this race!
 
Kevloaf said:
Good man. Shoot the messanger haha

I'm really excited about Lough Derg Spirit. He disappointed I the end didn't he but the way he took a hurdle, if he can translate that to a fence he might be gaining lengths at each fence ... wish would be a bonus in this race!
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I still really like Lough Derg Spirit. I can see him being a cliff horse for me already :very_drunk: and like you say he showed superb jumping at times last year. A word of caution though...

At Hendersons Open Day last Easter I asked Nick Dr Boinville if there was anything wrong at Aintree after pulling up when well beat and he said along the lines of

He was never right BUT don't expect to see him go left handed again anytime soon
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So if be very cautious on backing him for Cheltenham. I don't have it to hand but I'm also pretty sure Jeremiah McGrath says he needs a right handed track as well in Paul Ferguson's book (though the horse is still in his to follow list)

I imagine the likes of Sandown and especially Kempton will be where we see him over fences
 
Hadn't picked up on that but worth knowing! Maybe be a distortion horse by the end of the season!
 
jono said:
Phenomenal insight that Billy, very much appreciated and hats off for sharing
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I couldn't put it any better than that , agreed , Thanks billy.
 
Thanks for putting that up Billy. Much appreciated :encouragement:
 
Thanks Billy.

Keep the info coming.
 
I'm off work for a few weeks so I've decided to watch the 2017 festival back again.

Wrt Ballyandy - I had forgotten what a horrible time of it he had in the Supreme. He made a slight mistake at the 2nd and badly lost his position as a result; then not long afterwards he clipped heels and nearly came down. He still managed to finish 4th, closing on River Wylde up the hill.

He is of interest to me, especially as Billy had been told he goes novice chasing.
 
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Think he will be an Arkle horse? I was of the opinion the Neptune was his race and despite being unlucky doing his best work late doesn't put me off that train of thought?
 
I think he'll be an Arkle horse but can see why you'd be thinking JLT after the Supreme run. He did try 2.5 miles once last season but got beat by Messire Des Obeaux, in receipt of 7lbs.

Was there a problem with him after Cheltenham? He didn't run again at the end of the season.
 
Can't find anything to say he did have a problem. When he was beaten by MDO he did seem a little under-whelming. I suppose I have a general view that Chelt bumper winners/runners tend to all want further to show their best... Cue Card, Champagne Fever (picked out especially for you) so maybe that is why I think he will be better over further. Nothing concrete though and I wouldn't be against him over 2m!
 
Sceau Royal is going for this so I wonder if the MDO might go up in trip to JLT, the owners have quite a few though so maybe they could target a few at the race.
 
MDO lacks gears for me so I'd be thinking RSA or JLT for him.

Wholestone is another in that ownership but he'll need a trip. Could be a Scottish National horse come the end of the season.
 
Sceau Royal only priced up by WH - 25s.

Be interesting to see him over a fence. He had some nice early season form but I'd be staggered if he was an Arkle contender myself, based on his hurdle form, getting beaten by Irving and Yanworth over 16f and 15f isn't two mile winning speed no matter how well he takes to fences.

MDO would interest me a little more in the JLT. We should probably have a JLT/RSA combined thread at the moment?
 
For the Arkle I'd take good jumping over a turn of foot every time.
 
archie said:
For the Arkle I'd take good jumping over a turn of foot every time.
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I think Sceau Royal would need to be better than good to compete.

Obviously jumping is the most important, but as I said, I'll be interested to see him over a fence. Until then, and only then, if really good, would I consider a bet on him.

Best thing about novice chases is watching the way they jump... can't wait! have you got any going novice chasing this season archie?
 
Cadmium. Watch his race over hurdles. He picked up the same injury as Douvan but seems fine now.
 
Petit Mouchoir looks the stand out bet in this market, especially with the question marks against all the others at the head of the market
 
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