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2026 Novice Hurdlers

Wayward Lad said:
What result do we want for Gordon to realise he’s a stayer and run him in the potato race at the festival?
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I think Gordon will have an idea.

He called him a galloper after his debut, to me that says stayer, a horse that just continues to gallop without the gears for a Turners.

May have read too much into that of course, but I really like him for the Bartlett.
 
Wayward Lad said:
What result do we want for Gordon to realise he’s a stayer and run him in the potato race at the festival?
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Look, if CC wins then I’m sure that he’ll be aimed at turners. 2nd or 3rd and he’ll go spud. Won’t get enough runs in for a handicap
 
Wayward Lad said:
What result do we want for Gordon to realise he’s a stayer and run him in the potato race at the festival?
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Saint Baco gassing after the last, Sortudo picking him up and winning by 5 lengths and Classical Creek staying on behind him :LOL:
 
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I can see saint baco winning and going turners, with Sortudo and CC both going spud. But who knows
 
Quevega said:
Why did you read that and accept it as truth ?
First thought I had was that it did not sound right.
So i checked it, and although I did a bad job at it, I got there in the end.
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Well he said he had just read it, wasn't really that bothered about checking it and i have only backed these two on a whim because i had a barnstorming day yesterday. If they go to different races they can easily be backed on the day i would imagine. Can't see either of them going super short although there is space in the Turners market for something to shorten considerably. I am more interested in the Christmas horses that didn't fire personally.
 
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Lobos said:
Don't you think it's odd how obsessed everyone is trying to find the Supreme, Turners , Albert runners for Willie? Waste so much time on it that we are most likely missing out on mopping up value elsewhere.
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I am so guilty of this. Though this year am TRYING to look beyond…..unsuccessfully so far
 
Yosser said:
Well he said he had just read it, wasn't really that bothered about checking it and i have only backed these two on a whim because i had a barnstorming day yesterday. If they go to different races they can easily be backed on the day i would imagine. Can't see either of them going super short although there is space in the Turners market for something to shorten considerably. I am more interested in the Christmas horses that didn't fire personally.
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Not sure what the rest of your comment is about ?
The first eight words were enough for me.
Tells me all I need to know.
 
Kauto’s star said:
I am so guilty of this. Though this year am TRYING to look beyond…..unsuccessfully so far
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I think everyone is guilty of it - but rightly so as more often that not, that should be the trainer to focus on primarily.

Since 2015, Willie Mullins has had -

4 Supreme winners, 6 placed horses
4 ballymore winners, 10 placed horses
4 Bartlett winners, 4 placed horses
 
Paddy mullins update on Sporting life

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Fou de Toi given a mention by Paddy when asked on upcoming novices for the 2m division

Says LEADER D'allier will come on 'an awful lot' for his run in Leopardstown

Patrick Mullins says SOBER could be heading to the Moscow Flyer

And don't forget Bambino Fever he says
 
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darlojim said:
Paddy mullins update on Sporting life

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Fou de Toi given a mention by Paddy when asked on upcoming novices for the 2m division

Says LEADER D'allier will come on 'an awful lot' for his run in Leopardstown

Patrick Mullins says SOBER could be heading to the Moscow Flyer

And don't forget Bambino Fever he says
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What do you make of that Darlo re:- Sober. Cracking pedigree but i have a huge 'no, no' when it comes to flat horses going over high grade timber races. Plenty mature though.
 
ComplyOrDie said:
Little word on Doctor Du Mesnil since his defeat. I imagine they were disappointed to be beat into 2nd after the fall of El Cairos, however, it could be Ballyburn all over again. A defeat first time out then a step up in trip next time out where he bolts up and suddenly that 20/1 is single figures again.

I also rewatched the Future Champions where Le Divin Enfant disappointed, and whilst there is no forgiving him, I do think Love Me Tender stayed on well at the end. Willie has repeatedly said he'll probably go out in trip then sticks him in two 2m races, when I say Willie, I obviously mean JP and his bent bunch!

50/1 is a big overaction for a staying on 3rd in G1, IMO.
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Yeah my opinion too re LMT
I pretty sure he’s the only horse of WM that I’ve backed, for Turners
 
darlojim said:
I think everyone is guilty of it - but rightly so as more often that not, that should be the trainer to focus on primarily.

Since 2015, Willie Mullins has had -

4 Supreme winners, 6 placed horses
4 ballymore winners, 10 placed horses
4 Bartlett winners, 4 placed horses
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The trick is knowing when to switch thought processes though.

A bit like that fire in Switzerland, at some point I'd like to think most would have stopped filming the fire and laughing and got the fuck out of there.

The stats are good but this also means that more than half the time he doesn't provide the winner.
This season does look ropey for him now IMO.

I was with it until the 2 maidens got turned over on boxing day myself, and now I'm more open minded.
I think those 2 horses in particular have a lot to prove. So do the beaten horses in the grade 1 at xmas.

Mullins cupboard looks a little bare in the speedier novice division this year I reckon. Especially after the xmas races.
For example it's hard to predict who his high profile runners at Dublin in the novice hurdlers will be.

I'd not gone hard like some do, although I'd nibbled at plenty.
I much prefer to see them race before having a good go (for my relatively low level)
 
Quevega said:
A bit like that fire in Switzerland, at some point I'd like to think most would have stopped filming the fire and laughing and got the fuck out of there.

The stats are good but this also means that more than half the time he doesn't provide the winner.
This season does look ropey for him now IMO.

I was with it until the 2 maidens got turned over on boxing day myself, and now I'm more open minded.
I think those 2 horses in particular have a lot to prove. So do the beaten horses in the grade 1 at xmas.

Mullins cupboard looks a little bare in the speedier novice division this year I reckon. Especially after the xmas races.
For example it's hard to predict who his high profile runners at Dublin in the novice hurdlers will be.

I'd not gone hard like some do, although I'd nibbled at plenty.
I much prefer to see them race before having a good go (for my relatively low level)
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FFS good analogy :ROFLMAO:

I think this season is a little difference in the sense its now common knowledge the yard had a serious problem for around a month which has obviously set their horses back somewhat, and against a raging hard on that is Elliott, he's coming up plenty short. If they're disappointing in their next run, then fair enough. But I think we always tend to write off plenty of his early in the season and it comes to bite plenty in the arse.
 
Yosser said:
What do you make of that Darlo re:- Sober. Cracking pedigree but i have a huge 'no, no' when it comes to flat horses going over high grade timber races. Plenty mature though.
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Just rewatching his mdn hdle run now

If i remember rightly, he werent exactly fluent hurdling but he races a little keen (2m4) and it was his first run for around 9month or so and was likely a 'prep' for Ascot. He also received 6lbs from Arch Empire which would be a world below what is required for a Supreme.

Quickly hoovered up any big prices on BFX and can see how it plays out for a likely free hit
 
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darlojim said:
FFS good analogy :ROFLMAO:

I think this season is a little difference in the sense its now common knowledge the yard had a serious problem for around a month which has obviously set their horses back somewhat, and against a raging hard on that is Elliott, he's coming up plenty short. If they're disappointing in their next run, then fair enough. But I think we always tend to write off plenty of his early in the season and it comes to bite plenty in the arse.
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Yeah I accept that may be a factor.
But playing devils advocate, there is always issues in yards every year, or the ground doesn;t come right quick enough in the season.
And I always factor Elliott's early season form which is why I often ignore his festival novices to a certain degree.
So we'll see.
For doctor and Dallier though to use them as an example.
I doubt we'll see them in Dublin.
If we do, then he's either getting desperate or they are flying at home in comparison with their peers.
 
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Quevega said:
Yeah I accept that may be a factor.
But playing devils advocate, there is always issues in yards every year, or the ground doesn;t come right quick enough in the season.
And I always factor Elliott's early season form which is why I often ignore his festival novices to a certain degree.
So we'll see.
For Kopek and Dallier though to use them as an example.
I doubt we'll see them in Dublin.
If we do, then he's either getting desperate or they are flying at home in comparison with their peers.
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Kopek?

Leader will almost certainly be in a maiden hurdle wont he

I wonder if they'll try get a run into him sharp and then try reappear in that race Tullyhill won prior to his Supreme.
 
darlojim said:
Kopek?

Leader will almost certainly be in a maiden hurdle wont he

I wonder if they'll try get a run into him sharp and then try reappear in that race Tullyhill won prior to his Supreme.
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:LOL: doctor !
keep getting them mixed up
apologies
yes, i would say that may be a plan for one of those and most likely leader dallier.
 
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