2023 Stayers Hurdle

[Run4Home]

A kick in the balls to all backers.

Haha couldn't put anyone off but a far from ideal prep the amount he missed and as Lobos says Casey mentioned something similar that he might not be fully tuned.
Would love to see him win it.

[Kevloaf]

To be fair to Henderson he said very early on that they may target Maries Rock at The Stayers this season. He presumably sees enough at home to suggest they can switch her off now, and she'll be less keen that she's shown previously. That has always been the key to her.

The Mares Hurdle also looks mad-competitive, so I'm not entirely convinced that Stayers is a worse alternative if the trainer thinks she gets the trip. There have been plenty of Stayers Hurdles winners that hadn't run at 3 miles beforehand.

I also think that with doubts surrounding Flooring Porter, Klassical Dream, and Blazing Khal, it woudl also help sway the decision. Splitting her and Epatante is irrelevant. They're in different ownership, so the owners must also agree with the plan if that's what ultimately happens.

For what it's worth if she were mine, if I thought she was a chance of winning the Stayers, I'd definitely go that way. Others would possibly see it differently of course, and favour the Mares Hurdle. The point is Henderson is hardly doing anything wrong, and it's a bit risky saying it's a bad decision before the race is run. I don't think with the shape of the Stayers any of us could say she doesn't have a chance.

I disagree.

She'll likely go off fav for the Mares (or will be until the money comes for Honey) and no chance of going off fav in this. The unproven at the trip, whilst it has it's merits, is still a bigger doubt than she'd have in the Mares.


I'd say, your pocket thinks Stayers....

[Kevloaf]

I asked Scooby91 about the other french one a while back and he just dismissed it as not good enough I think, didn't go into any detail and I didn't ask .... maybe he'll appear and elaborate

Defo more to come on this... now I've actually probed

[Hardy Eustace]

I disagree.

She'll likely go off fav for the Mares (or will be until the money comes for Honey) and no chance of going off fav in this. The unproven at the trip, whilst it has it's merits, is still a bigger doubt than she'd have in the Mares.


I'd say, your pocket thinks Stayers....

Stayers, pocket talk included is the right race - a championship race worth way more money. She goes with a realistic chance of winning.

As a recruiter would you encourage your best candidate to go for the role you've agreed 30% terms or the one youve agreed at 15%, candidates choice of course, but you'd put your best case forward wouldn't you?

No different here.

[Kevloaf]

Stayers, pocket talk included is the right race - a championship race worth way more money. She goes with a realistic chance of winning.

As a recruiter would you encourage your best candidate to go for the role you've agreed 30% terms or the one youve agreed at 15%, candidates choice of course, but you'd put your best case forward wouldn't you?

No different here.

Haha, I do see what you're saying. Not a fair analogy as ultimately the horse doesn't get to decide.....

I actually don't disagree with the wording regarding the Championship race being the 'right race' for that reason, but that's because the Mares Hurdle shouldn't be a Grade 1 IMO. Without any money on it, or ignoring the betting, I 100% agree that she should be in the Stayers.

[Eggs]

….early decs:

Blazing K, Dashel, Gold Tweet, Henri, PP.

[somer1]

Come on Willie enter KD.

[Big Bucks]

Come on Willie enter KD.

Hes there

[Eggs]

…KD & Ashdale Bob entered.

[Zachx02]

KD running fresh, it's looking good.