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  • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

    Very much doubt it. Bookies aren't in Festival mode yet. You'd have to request it .
    Good news and bad news.

    Good news it's priced with sky under their nh specials
    bad news it's 12s

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    • Originally posted by fatherjohn View Post

      Good news and bad news.

      Good news it's priced with sky under their nh specials
      bad news it's 12s
      I think this is the problem with requesting prices, if you ask for a price it’s obvious you’re looking to back it and if no other bookie has it priced up there’s no comparison and you end up with joke prices, and of course other bookmakers follow joke prices and you get a joke market.
      I think there’s a case for being patient and just letting the market mature naturally…

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      • Originally posted by knockando View Post
        Anyone know if there is a price for Champ Kiely win today and at festival knocking around?

        …12-1 and a/r with Sky.

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        • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

          Very much doubt it. Bookies aren't in Festival mode yet. You'd have to request it .
          Requested - will keep updated

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          • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

            I think this is the problem with requesting prices, if you ask for a price it’s obvious you’re looking to back it and if no other bookie has it priced up there’s no comparison and you end up with joke prices, and of course other bookmakers follow joke prices and you get a joke market.
            I think there’s a case for being patient and just letting the market mature naturally…
            I think we started to see this last year. basically you are better taking the price on the day and then reevaluate if/how they win whether you want to bet any race or a specific race. take champ kiely...was available 5/2 when opened with paddys and 2s generally. priced at 10s any he isn't going to go 7/2 any race after so our still better getting the single on and then if you like them after the race lump on.

            this feels like a tricky one...we don't think he's one of Willie's top horses but it's early in the season and an interesting hurdle for a young novice to be thrown into. so willie must like him

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            • Originally posted by knockando View Post

              Requested - will keep updated
              Apologies. Hadn’t seen above posts from ista and father John as am out with little signal. Cheers for that.

              Agreed - poor price all in so will have a single today and utilise any profits should be win to back separately.


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              • Think that the only way to get value with this is to try and pick the actual target this year, skybet are winding me up

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                • Speaking of Skybet winding us up, they've priced up Marine Nationale today:

                  To win today and any race - 10/1
                  To win today and Supreme - 28/1
                  To win today and Ballymore - 28/1

                  You can get 25/1 for both races with cashout with 365, and a general 25/1 across the board for both races.

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                  • Originally posted by Mighty View Post
                    Speaking of Skybet winding us up, they've priced up Marine Nationale today:

                    To win today and any race - 10/1
                    To win today and Supreme - 28/1
                    To win today and Ballymore - 28/1

                    You can get 25/1 for both races with cashout with 365, and a general 25/1 across the board for both races.
                    For Information. Still 12/1 to Win Any Race with Will Hill

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                    • I mean it's not great by any means but it's about what you'd expect, and about right isn't it.

                      The any race is obviously a shocker based on Hills price. But...

                      He's top priced 25/1 in both supreme and ballymore markets isn't he. Might as well take the 28s with today, unless you see a scenario where he's beaten today and then goes on to win one of those. Which seems hugely unlikely but I guess there's one scenario of that happening?

                      And he's 2/5 today, so that 28/1 would have him 20/1 after the race as rolling singles. That probably feels about right but knowing the bookies over reactions he'll probably be even shorter!

                      To be honest it's probably one of the better values you'll see here
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                      • …..Hills have;

                        Rexem to win 1.30 today & Bartlett @ 50-1.

                        (Rexem is a best price 25-1 to win AB, generally 20-1).

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                        • Originally posted by Eggs View Post
                          …..Hills have;

                          Rexem to win 1.30 today & Bartlett @ 50-1.

                          (Rexem is a best price 25-1 to win AB, generally 20-1).
                          ….now 33-1.

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                          • Sky have Queen’s Brook win today and Mares Hurdle at 12/1.

                            Have asked Hills for a price. QB is best priced 10/1 for the race.

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                            • ….Sky have a number of Festival related ante-post doubles on offer;

                              Constitution Hill; Fighting 5th & CH 2-1; Fighting Fifth, Christmas Hurdle & CH 3-1
                              Allaho; KG & Ryanair 4-1; each by 1L or more 6-1; KG & a/r 9/2; KG & GC 14-1
                              Epatante; Fighting 5th & MH 5-1
                              APT; Betfair & GC 6-1
                              C Hill win F5th & CH and Energumene win Tingle Creek & CC 12-1
                              GDC; KG & GC 16-1
                              Allaho KG/Ry & APT Betfair/GC 33-1
                              L’Homme Press; KG & GC 33-1
                              BMG; KG & GC 40-1
                              Ferny H; Tingle C & CC 40-1
                              Ahoy Senor; Charlie Hall, Coral GC & GC 75-1


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                              • …Sky have;

                                Joe Dadancer 13.50 Weth & a/r 40-1

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