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  • That's great - thanks for flagging

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    • I can only get 25p on.

      Everyone I've highlighted it too has taken it for themselves

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      • Originally posted by Kautothegreat8 View Post
        Betfair have done a price boost on APT for this. 6/1 for a max £25 stake
        Thanks for that spot, couldn’t bring myself to bet him at around 9/4 but couldn’t resist at 6/1 !

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        • No posts since 21st Feb

          Outside the top 4 in the market this is bound to cut up a fair bit - especially with UDS now out.

          APT 5/2
          Min 3
          Frodon 6
          Riders Onthe Storm 8
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          CPS (CC)
          Politologue (CC)
          Saint Calvados 20
          Delta Work (GC)
          DDG 25
          Cilaos Emery (CH)
          Aso 33
          Janika 33
          Chris' Dream (GC)
          Real Steel 33
          Dynamite Dollars 33 (CC)
          Bristol De Mai 40 (Hills) best priced 18 elsewhere and plenty of blue today - likely GC
          Cepage 40 (Handicap?)
          Shattered Love 40 (Handicap?)

          There's bound to be something in there that's going to run into a place at a big price.

          At a stretch DDG - last years Arkle has worked out dreadfully, but if you go far enough back has form with APT.
          Real Steel had a great win a Thurles in Jan, a shocker in Feb and hasn't been heard of since.
          Aso bound to be worth a punt a 33s - that looks massive.

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          • Originally posted by chunker86 View Post
            No posts since 21st Feb

            Outside the top 4 in the market this is bound to cut up a fair bit - especially with UDS now out.

            APT 5/2
            Min 3
            Frodon 6
            Riders Onthe Storm 8
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            CPS (CC)
            Politologue (CC)
            Saint Calvados 20
            Delta Work (GC)
            DDG 25
            Cilaos Emery (CH)
            Aso 33
            Janika 33
            Chris' Dream (GC)
            Real Steel 33
            Dynamite Dollars 33 (CC)
            Bristol De Mai 40 (Hills) best priced 18 elsewhere and plenty of blue today - likely GC
            Cepage 40 (Handicap?)
            Shattered Love 40 (Handicap?)

            There's bound to be something in there that's going to run into a place at a big price.

            At a stretch DDG - last years Arkle has worked out dreadfully, but if you go far enough back has form with APT.
            Real Steel had a great win a Thurles in Jan, a shocker in Feb and hasn't been heard of since.
            Aso bound to be worth a punt a 33s - that looks massive.
            Agree....worth doing one, or two ew NRNB....and hopefully end up with 1 at decent price running

            Saint Calvedos, Aso, Chris's Dream and Shattered Love all poss candidates?
            Fat Jockey Patron (est. Jan 2021)

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            • Thats spooky, just been looking at this race! And have added 0.5pts EW on Aso at 33/1. Happy with my position on the big two, but think this horse is well over priced so worth a small saver.

              He hasn't been very good this season, but clearly doesn't like going right handed or very soft ground. He clearly loves Cheltenham and he ran a mighty race last year pushing Frodon all the way.

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              • A line through his last run puts Real Steel right in the mix here - can't find any updates on him - anyone anything they can share?

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                • Originally posted by chunker86 View Post
                  No posts since 21st Feb

                  Outside the top 4 in the market this is bound to cut up a fair bit - especially with UDS now out.

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                  UDS wasn't going here.

                  The top 4 in the market are all very solid chances though aren't they. Are you not picking something at an "each way price" as a cliche?

                  Which of the 4 that are at the top of the market are you expecting to blow out?

                  You'd need AT LEAST 2 of them to under perform to have a live each way place?

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                  • I posted my thoughts on this race here on 29th Feb: #685

                    I've backed APT and Min so this was my thoughts on 'each way'

                    Riders Onthe Storm and Frodon are both 6/1, and while they're both candidates as each way bets to nothing, I can't justify backing either of these as I fancy them so much less than the other two, who I've got backed each way. The next likely runner in the betting is Saint Calvados who I stil like, and 20/1 is alright but not one I feel the need to back now. Aso at 33/1 is a lively place candidate too but I haven't backed him.

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                    • Aso has placed in the last two renewals but he is a very up and down horse isn't he? I wonder how likely is it he'll shorten closer to the day or even on the day? Same price last year as he is this year...

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                      • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                        UDS wasn't going here.

                        The top 4 in the market are all very solid chances though aren't they. Are you not picking something at an "each way price" as a cliche?

                        Which of the 4 that are at the top of the market are you expecting to blow out?

                        You'd need AT LEAST 2 of them to under perform to have a live each way place?
                        Id say RidersontheStorm may under perform coming off a very hard race LTO.
                        Min is also coming off a slog against CPS and didn't act at Cheltenham last year.
                        Frodon has average enough form this year.

                        Rarely would you see the top 4 in the market finish 1,2,3,4 - they may take each other on and blow up and those ridden for a place may pick up the places coming up the hill - last years Gold Cup a prime example - very few would have picked Bristol DM and Anibale Fly to win but they both filled a place and got EW money at big odds beating Native River, CDO and PP who were all well fancied. Whilst i appreciate a Ryanair isn't the same test as a GC the same point can be made in many big races at the festival.

                        Based on this i think there is a fair argument to be made for having a stab at a couple of EWs at 30s+.

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                        • Originally posted by chunker86 View Post
                          Id say RidersontheStorm may under perform coming off a very hard race LTO.
                          Min is also coming off a slog against CPS and didn't act at Cheltenham last year.
                          Frodon has average enough form this year.

                          Rarely would you see the top 4 in the market finish 1,2,3,4 - they may take each other on and blow up and those ridden for a place may pick up the places coming up the hill - last years Gold Cup a prime example - very few would have picked Bristol DM and Anibale Fly to win but they both filled a place and got EW money at big odds beating Native River, CDO and PP who were all well fancied. Whilst i appreciate a Ryanair isn't the same test as a GC the same point can be made in many big races at the festival.

                          Based on this i think there is a fair argument to be made for having a stab at a couple of EWs at 30s+.
                          Min & CPS's race was run in a great time (compared to Notebook/Cashback) that's been well touted - that's because they're true G1 horses, I didn't see the race as a slog and they'll have had 5 weeks rest between races. Min destroyed Politilogue last year at Aintree after a 3 week break between races.

                          Min also acts superbly at Cheltenham - if it wasn't for Altior he'd have won a Champion Chase & Supreme. Last year they rode him differently & have openly said that's why he got beat, not for him not acting at the track.

                          I get Ridersonthestorm may be feeling the after effects of his last race still but would hold no worries for Min on any of the above, can't see neither him nor APT out of the front two, then you're hoping Frodon doesn't show up. Aso maybe the one?

                          There might be more liquidity on the day for a place on the Exchange too, as with e/w unless you're confident they've got a chance of finishing ahead of the front 2 or 3 in the market then you've lost the win stake, whereas could put the whole stake on a place on the Exchange instead?

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                          • Originally posted by chunker86 View Post
                            Id say RidersontheStorm may under perform coming off a very hard race LTO.
                            Min is also coming off a slog against CPS and didn't act at Cheltenham last year.
                            Frodon has average enough form this year.

                            Rarely would you see the top 4 in the market finish 1,2,3,4 - they may take each other on and blow up and those ridden for a place may pick up the places coming up the hill - last years Gold Cup a prime example - very few would have picked Bristol DM and Anibale Fly to win but they both filled a place and got EW money at big odds beating Native River, CDO and PP who were all well fancied. Whilst i appreciate a Ryanair isn't the same test as a GC the same point can be made in many big races at the festival.

                            Based on this i think there is a fair argument to be made for having a stab at a couple of EWs at 30s+.
                            There is a difference between expecting it and it being possible?

                            Min 'didn't act at Cheltenham last year' .... that's not the reason he didn't perform, it was a change in tactics?

                            The rest all makes sense, add I said earlier, Aso or Saint Calvados were the ones I thought would be potential good bets

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                            • The general support for APT is huge. Panel after preview panel seem to be unanimously tipping him.

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                              • Originally posted by charlie View Post
                                The general support for APT is huge. Panel after preview panel seem to be unanimously tipping him.
                                Yep, getting to the point where any 9/4 on the day and he could be a hit.
                                I think we have APT 20/1 in one of the monthly yankees...

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