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  • 2024 Grand National

    Nice time to open a thread about this season’s GN. A few posters have highlighted the likes of Vanillier and Mr Incredible, but my early dart is;

    Panda Boy @ 66-1 365

    I’d like to know if it’s on the agenda but ran well in the Irish equivalent earlier this year as well as coming 3rd the valuable PP Chase last December. He’s already been seen a couple of times this season running against decent opposition over shorter than ideal distances. Will be in that nice 8yo age group next April, 66-1 is a bit of a stand-out with 365.

    Smaller fields to try and manoeuvre with handicap marks over coming months.
    Last edited by Eggs; 10 December 2023, 10:33 AM.

  • #2
    …..read that Panda Boy will be targeted at the National, so that’s a plus for my early shout. Best price 40-1 now.

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    • #3
      ….initial entries, 06.02.24;


      Adamantly Chosen (IRE) 7 Watch This Space Syndicate W. P. Mullins Ireland

      Ain't That A Shame (IRE) 10 Robcour Henry de Bromhead Ireland

      Amirite (IRE) 8 Patrick Hale Henry de Bromhead Ireland

      Angels Dawn (IRE) 9 Mr Alfred Sweetnam S. Curling Ireland

      Annual Invictus (IRE) 9 Mr Thomas Michael Smith Chris Gordon

      Ashtown Lad (IRE) 10 Darren & Annaley Yates Dan Skelton

      Ash Tree Meadow (FR) 8 Alymer Stud Ltd Gordon Elliott Ireland

      Asterion Forlonge (FR) 10 Mrs J. Donnelly W. P. Mullins Ireland

      Battleoverdoyen (IRE) 11 Pioneer Racing Gordon Elliott Ireland

      Bronn (IRE) 7 Mr Simon Munir/Mr Isaac Souede W. P. Mullins Ireland

      Busselton (FR) 7 Mr Michael Hilary Burke Joseph Patrick O'Brien Ireland

      Capodanno (FR) 8 Mr John P. McManus W. P. Mullins Ireland

      Celebre d'Allen (FR) 12 Mr Allan Stennett Philip Hobbs & Johnson White

      Cepage (FR) 12 The Bellamy Partnership Venetia Williams

      Chambard (FR) 12 David & Carol Shaw Venetia Williams

      Chemical Energy (IRE) 8 Bective Stud Gordon Elliott Ireland

      Classic Getaway (IRE) 8 Cheveley Park Stud W. P. Mullins Ireland

      Coko Beach (FR) 9 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott Ireland

      Conflated (IRE) 10 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott Ireland

      Corach Rambler (IRE) 10 The Ramblers Lucinda Russell

      Delta Work (FR) 11 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott Ireland

      Desertmore House (IRE) 9 O. B. P. Carroll/Anthony Vaughan Martin Brassil Ireland

      Diol Ker (FR) 10 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott Ireland

      Dunboyne (IRE) 9 S. P. O'Connor Gordon Elliott Ireland

      Dusart (IRE) 9 BARTLETT & CARTHY Nicky Henderson

      Eklat de Rire (FR) 10 Mr P. Davies Henry de Bromhead Ireland

      Eldorado Allen (FR) 10 J P Romans & Terry Warner Joe Tizzard

      Embittered (IRE) 10 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott Ireland

      Empire Steel (IRE) 10 Alan Wight Sandy Thomson

      Fakiera (FR) 9 Mrs Martina Griffin Eoin Griffin Ireland

      Fakir d'Alene (FR) 9 Bective Stud Gordon Elliott Ireland

      Fakir d'Oudairies (FR) 9 Mr John P. McManus Joseph Patrick O'Brien Ireland

      Famous Bridge (IRE) 8 Hemmings Racing Nicky Richards

      Fantastic Lady (FR) 9 Mr E. R. Hanbury Nicky Henderson

      Farouk d'Alene (FR) 9 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott Ireland

      Favori de Champdou (FR) 9 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott Ireland

      Fiddlerontheroof (IRE) 10 The Minions Jim Boyle

      Foxy Jacks (IRE) 10 Ms Rachel Carthy M. F. Morris Ireland

      Frontal Assault (IRE) 9 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott Ireland

      Full Back (FR) 9 Mr Ashley Head Gary Moore

      Fury Road (IRE) 10 Sierra Pacific & Pioneer Racing Gordon Elliott Ireland

      Galia des Liteaux (FR) 8 Mr Michael Ariss Dan Skelton

      Galvin (IRE) 10 Mr R. A. Bartlett Gordon Elliott Ireland

      Gevrey (FR) 8 Denis Gallagher Racing Gordon Elliott Ireland

      Glengouly (FR) 8 Roaringwater Syndicate W. P. Mullins Ireland

      Good Boy Bobby (IRE) 11 Dash Grange Stud Nigel Twiston-Davies

      Hewick (IRE) 9 Mr T. J. McDonald John Joseph Hanlon Ireland

      Highland Hunter (IRE) 11 Nic Brereton and Lindsey Brennan Fergal O'Brien

      I Am Maximus (FR) 8 Mr John P. McManus W. P. Mullins Ireland

      Iron Bridge (IRE) 8 Hemmings Racing Jonjo O'Neill

      Its On The Line (IRE) 7 C. C. R. Racing Syndicate Emmet Mullins Ireland

      James du Berlais (FR) 8 Mr Simon Munir/Mr Isaac Souede W. P. Mullins Ireland

      Janidil (FR) 10 Mr John P. McManus W. P. Mullins Ireland

      Kinondo Kwetu 8 Gunalt Partnership Sam England

      Kitty's Light 8 R J Bedford & All Stars Sports Racing Christian Williams

      Latenightpass 11 Mrs P. A. Ellis Dan Skelton

      Le Milos 9 The Jolly Good Partnership Dan Skelton

      Letsbeclearaboutit (IRE) 9 Alymer Stud Ltd Gavin Cromwell Ireland

      Limerick Lace (IRE) 7 Mr John P. McManus Gavin Cromwell Ireland

      Longhouse Poet (IRE) 10 Sean & Bernardine Mulryan Martin Brassil Ireland

      Macs Charm (IRE) 9 Macs Charm Syndicate Colm A. Murphy Ireland

      Mac Tottie 11 Steve & Jackie Fleetham Peter Bowen

      Mahler Mission (IRE) 8 Colm Herron & Rockview Racing Syndicate John McConnell Ireland

      Malina Girl (IRE) 7 Mrs J. M. Russell Gavin Cromwell Ireland

      Meetingofthewaters (IRE) 7 Mr P. Byrne W. P. Mullins Ireland

      Minella Crooner (IRE) 8 KTDA Racing/Nick Courtney/Cillian Moran Gordon Elliott Ireland

      Minella Indo (IRE) 11 Mr Barry Maloney Henry de Bromhead Ireland

      Minella Trump (IRE) 10 Mr T. G. Leslie Donald McCain

      Mister Coffey (FR) 9 Lady Bamford & Alice Bamford Nicky Henderson

      Monbeg Genius (IRE) 8 Barrowman Racing Limited Jonjo O'Neill

      Moroder (IRE) 10 Mrs Ann Leftley Seamus Mullins

      Mr Incredible (IRE) 8 Paul Byrne & J. Carthy W. P. Mullins Ireland

      Nassalam (FR) 7 John and Yvonne Stone Gary Moore

      Noble Yeats (IRE) 9 Mr Robert Waley-Cohen Emmet Mullins Ireland

      Ontheropes (IRE) 10 Cheveley Park Stud W. P. Mullins Ireland

      Panda Boy (IRE) 8 Old Pals Partnership Martin Brassil Ireland

      Placenet (FR) 7 Prof C Tisdall & G Thompson David Pipe

      Revels Hill (IRE) 9 Noel Fehily Racing Syndicates-Revels Hil Harry Fry

      Riaan (IRE) 7 Philip J. Reynolds Gordon Elliott Ireland

      Roi Mage (FR) 12 Pryde/Van Der Hoeven/McGladery/Beaumont Patrick Griffin Ireland

      Royal Thief (IRE) 10 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott Ireland

      Run Wild Fred (IRE) 10 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott Ireland

      Sail Away (FR) 8 Mr and Mrs J. D. Cotton Dan Skelton

      Salvador Ziggy (IRE) 8 William Hurley/Mrs Aisling Hurley Gordon Elliott Ireland

      Samcro (IRE) 12 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott Ireland

      Shakem Up'arry (IRE) 10 Mr Harry Redknapp Ben Pauling

      So des Flos (FR) 7 Mr David Lestrange Gordon Elliott Ireland

      Stattler (IRE) 9 Mr R. A. Bartlett W. P. Mullins Ireland

      The Goffer (IRE) 7 Mr Allan Snow Gordon Elliott Ireland

      Threeunderthrufive (IRE) 9 McNeill Family Paul Nicholls

      Tommie Beau (IRE) 9 Simon & Christine Prout Seamus Mullins

      Tullybeg (IRE) 9 Bective Stud Gordon Elliott Ireland

      Vanillier (FR) 9 Mrs H. M. Keaveney Gavin Cromwell Ireland

      Where It All Began (IRE) 8 Patrick & Scott Bryceland,McNeill Family Gordon Elliott Ireland

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      • #4
        Weights are in:

        2024 Grand National weights


        1 Hewick 11st 12lb 169
        2 Conflated 11st 9lb 166
        3 Noble Yeats 11st 8lb 165
        4 Capodanno 11st 4lb 161
        5 Coko Beach 11st 4lb 161
        6 Nassalam 11st 4lb 161
        7 Fakir D'Oudairies 11st 3lb 160
        8 Ash Tree Meadow 11st 2lb 159
        9 Corach Rambler 11st 2lb 159
        10 I Am Maximus 11st 2lb 159

        11 Janidil 11st 2lb 159
        12 Minella Indo 11st 2lb 159
        13 Asterion Forlonge 11st 1lb 158
        14 Mahler Mission 11st 1lb 158
        15 Stattler 11st 1lb 158
        16 Classic Getaway 11st 157
        17 Delta Work 11st 157
        18 Foxy Jacks 11st 157
        19 Threeunderthrufive 10st 13lb 156
        20 Galvin 10st 12lb 155

        21 Farouk D'Alene 10st 11lb 154
        22 Salvador Ziggy 10st 11lb 154
        23 Eldorado Allen 10st 10lb 153
        24 Letsbeclearaboutit 10st 10lb 153
        25 Ain't That A Shame 10st 9lb 152
        26 Fury Road 10st 9lb 152
        27 James Du Berlais 10st 9lb 152
        28 Bronn 10st 8lb 151
        29 Vanillier 10st 8lb 151
        30 Dusart 10st 7lb 150

        31 Le Milos 10st 7lb 150
        32 Longhouse Poet 10st 7lb 150
        33 Mr Incredible 10st 7lb 150
        34 Latenightpass 10st 6lb 149
        35 Minella Crooner 10st 6lb 149
        36 Run Wild Fred 10st 6lb 149
        37 Adamantly Chosen 10st 5lb 148
        38 Chemical Energy 10st 5lb 148
        39 Mac Tottie 10st 5lb 148
        40 Favori De Champdou 10st 4lb 147

        41 Limerick Lace 10st 4lb 147
        42 Meetingofthewaters 10st 4lb 147
        43 Monbeg Genius 10st 4lb 147
        44 Roi Mage 10st 4lb 147
        45 The Goffer 10st 4lb 147
        46 Chambard 10st 3lb 146
        47 Eklat De Rire 10st 3lb 146
        48 Embittered 10st 3lb 146
        49 Galia Des Liteaux 10st 3lb 146
        50 Gevrey 10st 3lb 146

        51 Glengouly 10st 3lb 146
        52 Kitty's Light 10st 3lb 146
        53 Panda Boy 10st 3lb 146
        54 Busselton 10st 2lb 145
        55 Empire Steel 10st 2lb 145
        56 Fiddlerontheroof 10st 2lb 145
        57 Malina Girl 10st 2lb 145
        58 Desertmore House 10st 1lb 144
        59 Fantastic Lady 10st 1lb 144
        60 Highland Hunter 10st 1lb 144

        61 Kinondu Kwetu 10st 1lb 144
        62 Fakir D'Alene 10st 143
        63 Ontheropes 10st 143
        64 Shakem Up'Arry 10st 143
        65 Amirite 9st 13lb 142
        66 Angels Dawn 9st 13lb 142
        67 Annual Invictus 9st 13lb 142
        68 Diol Ker 9st 13lb 142
        69 Rhiaan 9st 13lb 142
        70 Sail Away 9st 13lb 142

        71 Samcro 9st 13lb 142
        72 Macs Charm 9st 12lb 141
        73 Cepage 9st 11lb 140
        74 Dunboyne 9st 11lb 140
        75 Iron Bridge 9st 11lb 140
        76 Tullybeg 9st 11lb 140
        77 Famous Bridge 9st 10lb 139
        78 Ashtown Lad 9st 9lb 138
        79 Frontal Assault 9st 9lb 138
        80 Mister Coffey 9st 9lb 138

        81 Good Boy Bobby 9st 8lb 137
        82 Tommie Beau 9st 7lb 136
        83 Revels Hill 9st 6lb 135
        84 Where It All Began 9st 6lb 135
        85 Moroder 9st 2lb 131
        86 Full Back 9st 1lb 130
        87 Minella Trump 9st 1lb 130

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        • #5
          ….now it’s guess what number gets in with the reduced field. The handicapper suggests 144 (no 58).
          Last edited by Eggs; 20 February 2024, 04:30 PM.

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          • #6
            Backed The Goffer at a boosted 75/1 with Ladbrokes (4 pl) today

            Up the Naiad

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            • #7
              Galvin got to be reasonably well treated there hasn't he. Didn't get very far last year mind. Was 50s earlier but chopped into 25s now.

              Mr Incredible got a bit further last year and is another worth another chance. Mullins seems quite positive about how he's working and I assume he's deliberately been kept back?! Still 40s.
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              • #8
                Well worth familiarising with the new eligibility criteria for this years race as several notable entries have still not met it yet.
                Not sure exactly what they mean by current season though - and potentially having ran in the previous years National might count, which seems a little perverse but who fucking knows ?



                Total prize fund £1,000,000.

                £500,000 to the winning horse.

                The second to receive £200,000, the third £100,000, the fourth £65,000, the fifth £40,000, the sixth £30,000, the seventh £20,000, the eighth £15,000, the ninth £10,000 and the 10th £5,000.

                For seven year olds and upwards which, prior to March 26th 2024, have started in a minimum of six steeple chases run under the Rules of Racing of a Recognised Turf Authority, at least one of which must have been during the current season.

                In addition, prior to March 26th 2024, horses must have been placed first, second, third or fourth in a steeple chase with an official distance description of 'two miles, seven and a half furlongs' or more, at any time during the horse's career.

                Horses must be also allotted a rating of 130 or more by the BHA Handicapper following a review of the horses entered and after taking account of races run up to and including February 18th. Horses which are not qualified for a rating in Great Britain or Ireland at closing may also be entered. Such horses may be eligible for a weight, providing

                the Handicapper is satisfied that the horse's racecourse performances up to and including February 18th 2024 would merit a minimum rating of 130.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Quevega View Post
                  Well worth familiarising with the new eligibility criteria for this years race as several notable entries have still not met it yet.
                  Not sure exactly what they mean by current season though - and potentially having ran in the previous years National might count, which seems a little perverse but who fucking knows ?



                  Total prize fund £1,000,000.

                  £500,000 to the winning horse.

                  The second to receive £200,000, the third £100,000, the fourth £65,000, the fifth £40,000, the sixth £30,000, the seventh £20,000, the eighth £15,000, the ninth £10,000 and the 10th £5,000.

                  For seven year olds and upwards which, prior to March 26th 2024, have started in a minimum of six steeple chases run under the Rules of Racing of a Recognised Turf Authority, at least one of which must have been during the current season.

                  In addition, prior to March 26th 2024, horses must have been placed first, second, third or fourth in a steeple chase with an official distance description of 'two miles, seven and a half furlongs' or more, at any time during the horse's career.

                  Horses must be also allotted a rating of 130 or more by the BHA Handicapper following a review of the horses entered and after taking account of races run up to and including February 18th. Horses which are not qualified for a rating in Great Britain or Ireland at closing may also be entered. Such horses may be eligible for a weight, providing

                  the Handicapper is satisfied that the horse's racecourse performances up to and including February 18th 2024 would merit a minimum rating of 130.

                  …..interesting but without looking, I can’t think there’ll be many that haven’t run in a chase this season (Le Milos an obvious one).

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                  • #10
                    Mr incredible off top of head
                    a few not ran 6 times also

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                    • #11
                      Need to have run in 6 chases under rules:
                      Classic Getaway (5)
                      Letsbeclearaboutit (5)
                      Meetingofthewaters (5)
                      Riaan (4)
                      Salvador Ziggy (4)
                      Favori De Champdou (4)

                      Need to have run in a chase under rules this season:
                      Mr Incredible
                      Le Milos
                      Samcro

                      First 4 in a chase over at least 2m 7.5F:
                      Adamantly Chosen
                      Ash Tree Meadow
                      Embittered
                      Riaan


                      Not sure how up to date this is, as lifted from another website

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                      • #12
                        Hills going NRMB for The National.
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                        • #13
                          Corach Rambler into 7/1 after his Gold Cup performance.

                          But the real question is how far does Delta win by

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                          • #14
                            …I started this thread with Panda Boy @ 66-1 but it’s unlikely he gets in. My main focus now is on Galvin and CAPADANNO, who I think could be the one.

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                            • #15
                              Adamantly chosen looks to have a great chance in this race now.
                              33-1 decent value nrnb
                              66-1 antepost even better

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