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  • #16
    Originally posted by Quevega View Post
    Adamantly chosen looks to have a great chance in this race now.
    33-1 decent value nrnb
    66-1 antepost even better
    ….Fred sleeping on that 66-1, I wonder if Mullins still has an eye on the UK trainers title.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Eggs View Post

      ….Fred sleeping on that 66-1, I wonder if Mullins still has an eye on the UK trainers title.
      Yeah
      I think he might run 4 or 5
      meetingoftgewaters and adamantly look the best chances
      others not so well handicapped i reckon

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      • #18
        Hewick due to go to the Bowl so everyone will be getting a few more lbs tacked on

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        • #19
          The 4 I fancy and backed accordingly are:

          Noble Yeats 16/1 E/W - Been campaigned solely over hurdles this season, which I don't mind at all, and has been running solidly enough in some top races. His big day will clearly be the National now. 1lb lower than last season when never nearer, only going down by 8 1/2 lengths. 14lbs swing with Corach Rambler for this years race too. I'd much rather have Noble Yeats @ 16/1 than Corach at 6's, given how hard a race Corach is going into the National off the back of.

          Kitty's Light 25/1 E/W (now 20's) - Absolutely loves marathon trips. His record over trips from 3m4f+ reads 2-2-3-1-1-1, the first of those 2's was when he was only 5 years old, so a ridiculously solid performance for a horse so young. His performances over 4m reads 2-1-1 and again, the 2 was when he was just aged 6. He's very experienced for his age with 35 career starts and 25 of them over fences. He's been campaigned a mixture this season, over hurdles and fences, and I don't mind a prep run in the Ultima prior to the National, something that has been done successfully in the past.

          Galvin 20/1 E/W - 11lbs lower than when running in the race last season, albeit he unseated at the 1st. Not unknown to the forum, having won the NH Chase at the festival back in 2021. Clearly goes well over extreme trips and I really liked his prep run in the Boyne Hurdle at Navan, although I do realise the prep run was actually for the X-Country at the festival, which never got ran, rather than the Grand National. I'm surprised he's been dropped so much so quickly, and think the yard have targeted this race with him this season.

          Stattler 40/1 E/W - Same owner as Galvin, and one, again, that doesnt' mind a marathon trip, having also won the NH Chase at the Cheltenham Festival, back in 2022. The horse who finished miles behind him in 3rd that day was last seasons 2nd in the Grand National, Vanillier. He's got to give him 8lbs in the National this season, but that shouldn't be an issue. Vanillier is 2nd favourite, around 12/1 and Stattler is 40's. I know which one I prefer. His dams sire is one of my all time favourite sires for Grand National horses, in Old Vic, sire of Grand National winners Don't Push It, and my namesake, Comply Or Die. He's also had multiple horses that have placed in the race over the years.

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          • #20
            I've backed 6 so far and rank them in the following order as to their chances.

            Panda Boy 2ptew 16-1 B365 & 27-1 Bex

            Meetingofthewaters 4ptew 15-1 WH

            Adamantly Chosen 1ptew 66-1 Betvic

            Galvin 2ptew 22-1 WH

            Mr Incredible 1ptew 25-1 B365

            Chemical Energy 1ptew 25-1 B365

            I have Kitty's Light on my to do list also but have held off for now on a class thing - and I'll no doubt add more...

            Also done the related double on Meeting and Panda with The Goffer in the Topham (no idea if he runs in the race but would like his chances if he did and he looks a non stayer for the big one)

            I don't think you need to stay as much as you think but you certainly need stamina after the last.

            Big worry would be Corach but I might just cover him for my stakes nearer the time.

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            • #21
              The 3 I like are

              Mahler mission
              Galvin
              Chemical energy

              The latter two definitely need it to stop raining so no bet at this stage

              Galvin in particular looks nicely weighted, his mark has dropped plenty given he's not been trying

              Il likely back all 3 on the day with a saver on Corach

              Like you Quevega I'd be very sweet on the goffer for the topham if he lines up

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              • #22
                Already on corach 20/1 ew Mahler 16s ew, Adamant Chosen 66/1 ew & meeting of the waters 33/1 Wh ew.
                Last edited by Magpie; 20 March 2024, 07:06 PM.

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                • #23
                  I like Mahler Mission also but just think he's been shafted by the handicapper - His form does not warrant a mark of 158 IMO.
                  The Hennessy has worked out well, but the best form in behind was from clear non stayers in that race.

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                  • #24
                    I've back 3 so far. Chemical Energy, Galvin and Kitty's Light.

                    I'm getting rather sweet on Chemical Energy but could just do with the ground drying up a bit over the next fortnight.

                    He's not been seen since the Kerry National (where he ran well for a long way) but I believe the plan has always to go to Aintree fresh. The run in last seasons NHC reads well but the ground will be key.

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                    • #25
                      I've had a speculative couple of quid on James du Berlais on the exchange at silly odds. Not sure he's crying out for the trip but he's carried lots of weight against some good horses in the past.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Quevega View Post
                        I like Mahler Mission also but just think he's been shafted by the handicapper - His form does not warrant a mark of 158 IMO.
                        The Hennessy has worked out well, but the best form in behind was from clear non stayers in that race.
                        Didn't notice he'd been put up 3lb by the national handicapper that seems harsh

                        He looks badly weighted now with corach, I am maximus, delta work, galvin and minella indo

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                        • #27
                          I’m assuming Blackmore will ride minella indo? Currently 25/1, what’s the SP ? 10/1 maybe

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                          • #28
                            Quite strong on Limerick Lace IF she turns up. I think the 25/1 NRNB is a small gift on Hills. She's enough experience and is a mare in form.
                            Last edited by Might_Bite; 25 March 2024, 03:26 PM.

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                            • #29
                              …..16 taken out at the latest declaration stage, leaves Panda Boy at no35 needing one more to come out at 5 day decs for him to get a run.
                              Last edited by Eggs; 26 March 2024, 04:55 PM.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Quevega View Post
                                I've backed 6 so far and rank them in the following order as to their chances.

                                Panda Boy 2ptew 16-1 B365 & 27-1 Bex

                                Meetingofthewaters 4ptew 15-1 WH

                                Adamantly Chosen 1ptew 66-1 Betvic

                                Galvin 2ptew 22-1 WH

                                Mr Incredible 1ptew 25-1 B365

                                Chemical Energy 1ptew 25-1 B365

                                I have Kitty's Light on my to do list also but have held off for now on a class thing - and I'll no doubt add more...

                                Also done the related double on Meeting and Panda with The Goffer in the Topham (no idea if he runs in the race but would like his chances if he did and he looks a non stayer for the big one)

                                I don't think you need to stay as much as you think but you certainly need stamina after the last.

                                Big worry would be Corach but I might just cover him for my stakes nearer the time.
                                Have added another 2ptew 16-1 Meetingofthewaters and another 1pt Panda on exchange.

                                cashed the Goffer doubles and added 1pt at 150+ on exchange as looks more likely Gordon will send him to the big one. Can always add again if he lines up in topham that the lizard is going to win anyway

                                And with Limerick Lace looking like running also have added 1ptew 25-1 on her.
                                Kitty's now in the team also 3pt win 16-1 B365.


                                So that might be it until final decs 9 is enough I reckon.

                                Fairly confident that Meetingofthewaters if declared will be close to Fav and has an outstanding chance. Which means Panda Boy has also
                                (been a random drift on him today and the top 3 have all shortened)

                                I do fear Corach still, and Maximus and Vanillier but will have to be against them I think if the prices stay wrong.
                                There is reasonable arguments against all three at the prices, as they are all not that well handicapped and aside from Corach the other two have jumping issues. Certainly not armchair rides anyhow.

                                Have had 2 x 0.5pt doubles the other day with Nick Rockett and Corach/Noble Yeats, so hopefully he does the business Monday and I'll have 2 course specialists covered before the day for little outlay.

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