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Punchestown Festival 2022

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  • #46
    Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post
    First time tongue tie on minella indo
    This positive, negative or indifferent for him in your eyes?

    EDIT - just noticed Bob Olinger has first time tongue tie on Tuesday as well. Both decisions have piqued my interest somewhat... dunno how though!
    Last edited by Odin; 25 April 2022, 02:36 PM.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Odin View Post

      This positive, negative or indifferent for him in your eyes?

      EDIT - just noticed Bob Olinger has first time tongue tie on Tuesday as well. Both decisions have piqued my interest somewhat... dunno how though!
      It'd be a positive as both his last two races he's not finished off strongly at all

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Odin View Post

        This positive, negative or indifferent for him in your eyes?

        EDIT - just noticed Bob Olinger has first time tongue tie on Tuesday as well. Both decisions have piqued my interest somewhat... dunno how though!
        Sometimes this is a prelude to a breathing op, if the tongue tie doesnt work.

        Its an interesting move, from Henry.
        "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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        • #49
          Weird as I have that Bob & HYoneysuckle unbeaten bet still to go with Paddys, but I'm incredibly sanguine about whether Bob wins or not, cos realistically it should already be a loser

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post

            Sometimes this is a prelude to a breathing op, if the tongue tie doesnt work.

            Its an interesting move, from Henry.
            Yeah that's a logical next step, will be interesting to see how it plays out. I'd love MI to win/run well with the tongue tie on and have his price shorten so I can feel optimistic about my 5/1 Gold Cup place bet over the summer!

            Funny though, I didn't think either was particularly struggling with breathing. I was happy to accept Bob had hurt himself at the fourth last and that MI had just been beaten by two faster horses last two runs (Conflated/APT). Reinforces my earlier point that I'm clueless (but somehow profitable) at the moment haha

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post

              Sometimes this is a prelude to a breathing op, if the tongue tie doesnt work.

              Its an interesting move, from Henry.
              It's likely that it's only a stop gap measure because of time pressures and that both horses will have some sort of operation in the summer. Sometimes the tie works and sometimes it doesn't but it can't be seen as a short-term positive or a long-term solution.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by archie View Post

                It's likely that it's only a stop gap measure because of time pressures and that both horses will have some sort of operation in the summer. Sometimes the tie works and sometimes it doesn't but it can't be seen as a short-term positive or a long-term solution.
                Yes, it's never great news, when breathing comes into question

                About time Ireland joined GB and made it mandatory to advise when a breathing op has been done, rather than keeping it quiet.
                "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                • #53
                  Patrick re Sir G versus Double D........

                  “He was very keen in the Ballymore, particularly on the heavy ground, and he did well to win given that. He jumped better than he did at Leopardstown which was good to see. We wouldn’t have thought two miles would be a problem for him, he’s by Jeremy and with something of a flat-orientated pedigree.
                  "I don’t see the trip being an issue but with next year in mind you’d want to see him win well here if you’re going to think about taking on Honeysuckle or do you go chasing? This will be a help in that regard.

                  “I think he’s going to have to go to catch my fellow, though. I know Mikey Fogarty said to me before Punchestown last year he thought Dysart Dynamo was better than Kilcruit and Sir Gerhard. He'd be a fair judge and we’ll find out on Tuesday."


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                  • #54
                    I'm going for the Patrick double of DD and CPS. CPS the more confident selection for me at the second leg, so it's a nice set up.

                    Quite keen on Grangee in the Mares Hurdle. Surprised she's not shorter than she is. Quick return after Fairyhouse the slight concern but the return to 2 miles is a positive and best the fav and 2F at Cheltenham. Fav way too short imo, shapes like she wants heavy ground or further, no matter what they say.

                    Might take on BO with Miller's Bank as well. Given the Cheltenham disappointment and the tongue tie discussion above. But there's only 7 runners so it's not a very appealing each way.

                    On Wednesday...

                    That 3m novice hurdle does look a good contest. Think Daily Present could be being slightly overlooked with all the Mullins, Elliot and HDB horses in there. Quickest ground he'll have faced but 20/1 compared to Bronn at 8s looks a bit much.

                    Freedom to Dream looks to have a real good shout as well. Look forward to reading about him!
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                    Might land on Clan in the big one

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                    • #55
                      I also think CPS will keep his unbeaten record at Punchestown intact in what maybe his last race. As for Bob Ollinger I do fear for him a little. Hoping they are not coming back to the Well too soon after his injury but the tongue tie and the step up in trip does worry me.......a lot!

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                      • #56
                        Dysart dynamo runs his races the wrong way round

                        He's going to need to be of un de sceauxs ability to do that and win grade 1s

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                        • #57
                          Brides Hill should have a fairly easy time out in front tomorrow and would be the best bet of the day tomorrow at the prices.

                          SG has the better jockey and that will prove the difference if both SG and DD run to near their best.

                          In from the Cold finally gets decent ground over hurdles. 25s in places 5 places is a decent each way shout.

                          Energumene will prove too good for CPS. I love CPS but he doesn't finish his races off brilliantly and he won't shake off Energumene coming to the last.
                          Not much up front pace in the 3m novice chase so Bob if running to form should be good enough. Lifetime Ambition and Capodanno won well at the festival last year but Capodanno needs another summer of growth before I expect we see more improvement next season and LA hasn't particularly impressed me this season.

                          No idea in the other races.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post
                            Dysart dynamo runs his races the wrong way round

                            He's going to need to be of un de sceauxs ability to do that and win grade 1s
                            I agree. I don't see him as a Cheltenham horse but do see Punchestown playing to his strengths more than SG who could well turn out to be a multiple festival winner.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                              I agree. I don't see him as a Cheltenham horse but do see Punchestown playing to his strengths more than SG who could well turn out to be a multiple festival winner.
                              I can just see him setting it up perfectly for SG unless Patrick can keep him under control in the first mile

                              SG has absolutely miles better form and personally i think hes more of a 2 miler than a 2 and a half miler he won the Ballymore on pure ability

                              I also can't see them staying over hurdles to look at constitution hill and honeysuckles arse next season and expect him to be lining up as an odds on fav in the arkle

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                              • #60
                                In case anyone fancies a flyer on a horse, How's Trix is still 14/1 365 having been 80/1 last night. Is 13/2 or shorter anywhere else. Trainer and jockey have both won race in last 3 years but it's difficult to make a case for the horse itself. I've stuck in a double with Flooring Porter for some fun. I'm a sucker for these gambles, particularly in Ireland.

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