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King George 2021

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  • #31
    Originally posted by Craigy14 View Post

    No worries Ista had to double check myself on PP when I said it

    He has form round Kempton and I suppose he could still have improvement in him only being 7 yo. I definitely think the King George suits more than a Gold Cup at present so I like him at the price. Will all depend how much improvement he can show, ground is against him today as well.
    Everywhere I look pundits are taking his Gold Cup showing as his true form, this is from an interview with Joe Chambers:



    Royale Pagaille has been absent since finishing a well-beaten sixth behind Minella Indo in the National Hunt Festival showpiece last March.

    “He lost two shoes in the Gold Cup and he ripped the laminae from the inside of his left hind hoof,” revealed Joe Chambers, racing manager to Royale Pagaille’s owner Rich Ricci.

    “He actually had to be horse-ambulanced from the paddock back up to the stable yard – he was on three legs.


    He could be a big player in top staying races this season...

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    • #32
      The difference in class between A Plus Tard and the British horses was stark on Saturday. I thought RP's jumping was falling apart towards the end. Imperial Aura was going ok but he fell before the race hotted up - does he stay 3m? Plus falling is not a plus. APT isn't running in the KG as he prefers LH according to the trainer.

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      • #33
        Pp/Bf have cut minella indo to 11/4 for the king George

        And gone standout 9/1 on envoi allen

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        • #34
          Is Minella Indo a King George horse ?

          As much as I love the horse and will still be my idea of the Gold Cup winner, I really can't see Kempton suiting.

          For me Envoi is taylormade for a King George.

          I'd love to see him take his chance and hopefully Allaho will turn up too. Would be some spectacle.

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          • #35
            Hes always been a strong traveller and a plenty quick enough jumper so don't see why not

            It just depends whether he can run near to his spring form in December

            If he can he will win imo

            But at this stage I'm not sure how likely that is

            I was happy to take the 10s that was available, with that doubt 11/4 looks skinny this far out

            I'm also on allaho too and think he has a cracking chance IF he can run to his spring form in December

            I think they are the best two horses that are likely to turn up its just whether they can do it in December
            Last edited by FinalFurlong91; 27 November 2021, 08:43 PM.

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            • #36
              A big run from Asterion Forlonge in the John Durkan could see his price for this freefall. Entirely possible as he's won first time up every time. He's still relatively lightly raced with just 12 runs. He's 2/2 at Punchestown if you excuse his first fence fall v Envoi and he's much more comfortable going Right Handed.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                A big run from Asterion Forlonge in the John Durkan could see his price for this freefall. Entirely possible as he's won first time up every time. He's still relatively lightly raced with just 12 runs. He's 2/2 at Punchestown if you excuse his first fence fall v Envoi and he's much more comfortable going Right Handed.
                It's hard to say what would have happened but in my opinion Asterion would have won that. All aboard the Forlonge train for the King George
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Brooksie View Post

                  It's hard to say what would have happened but in my opinion Asterion would have won that. All aboard the Forlonge train for the King George
                  He would have gone mighty close. The KG looks his Gold Cup to me.

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                  • #39
                    Thompson has said Envoi won't go to the KG after that and Allaho might not either now

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                      He would have gone mighty close. The KG looks his Gold Cup to me.
                      Fingers Crossed

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Winging The Last View Post
                        Thompson has said Envoi won't go to the KG after that and Allaho might not either now
                        After that slog I'd imagine they'll give Allaho some time off and he'll reappear in the race he beat Elimay in, then on to the Ryanair. Envoi I can see being freshened up with a look to competing over 2 miles.
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                        • #42
                          Plus I think Allaho isn't a 3 mile horse given that race - he just goes too hard at it for 3 miles even at Kempton. "No prisoners" in that race today.

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                          • #43
                            Probably looking at:

                            Clan des Obeaux
                            Minella Indo
                            Chantry House
                            Frodon
                            Asterion Forlonge
                            Royale Pagaille
                            Saint Calvados
                            Fidderlontheroof
                            Midnight Shadow

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                            • #44
                              Asterion Forlonge name checked for this by Mullins in his latest sportinglife column

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Zachx02 View Post
                                Asterion Forlonge name checked for this by Mullins in his latest sportinglife column
                                Boooooom !!!!!

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